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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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we're back with gene and Chris on the

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para cast and we have a very interesting

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guest coming up a little bit later in

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the show as a matter of fact we've got

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more questions for this guest than any

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other so we can almost do a show sitting

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here and having Chris reading questions

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as I just sit back but anyway you know

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we get lots of interesting letters from

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listeners samehada some love us some are

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in the middle some have constructive

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criticisms so there was one message

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posted in our forums from somebody who

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probably doesn't like me because he

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resented these movie references that I

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make occasionally and I regard movies as

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popular culture and sometimes as an

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indication of where people are in our

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society and so I will mention a movie

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from time to time

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to put everybody in the same framework

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so in the previous episode we did with

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Brad Steiger this person thought I was

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trying to get attention from Hollywood

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you know guys I'm too old for this stuff

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you know I don't want to use the word

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that Danny Glover used in the Lethal

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Weapon movies to use a comparison there

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was a line he'd given several of those

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movies I'm too old for this you know

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what which we can't see you're doing it

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again gene right I'm doing it again I

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don't care but you know the point being

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that I don't care if Hollywood notices

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me or not it's too late you know if they

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want to you know give a part to an aging

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baby boomer from Brooklyn I guess I'm

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there but oh they can turn rock codes

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into a huge blockbuster multi-million

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dollar production you know I wouldn't

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mind that at all but remember my son's

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only 27 so he'll be around to see that

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happen I don't expect I will in any case

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all right people are entitled to their

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opinions maybe not their facts but there

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you go and

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we talked about art bells failed Dark

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Matter radio show now for whatever

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reason he claims a dispute with Sirius

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XM where he pulled the show after a few

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weeks now we did make you know a few

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criticisms of it number one being the

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most important that he was trying to

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dwell on his success of the past for the

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show

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bring on the same old guests like he was

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never away I guess that's good or that's

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bad I mean if you want to hear those

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people I guess you can get the shows on

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YouTube or somewhere so I don't know if

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that's a value or not you know some

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people will say what have you done for

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me lately the only area where we

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criticize him though is where he took

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the name of Don ecers radio show Dark

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Matters and calls it art bells Dark

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Matter I thought that was a bad move

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because he knows Don Ecker I don't

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understand why he did that and why he

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ignored any concerns voiced by people

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about the decision I thought it's

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ridiculous there got to be a thousand in

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one names you could come up with for a

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paranormal radio show but I'm not

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attacking him personally it could be

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serious XM wanted him to use that name I

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don't know we know of course for example

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that the use of names may not be in the

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control of the talent look at the dark

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skies TV show that Bryce Abel

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co-produced back in the 1990's they came

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out with a movie called dark skies and

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nobody asked Bryce able for permission

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they did it the movie I guess did Serta

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okay

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made back what they invested on it so

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there you go

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titles you know may not be that

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important but to Don Ecker it's

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important because he's been doing that

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show for twenty years and he does a damn

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good job but again we're not attacking

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art bell personally I don't know the man

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I don't think I've ever written to him I

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haven't talked to him I wish him luck if

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he can reestablish his radio career and

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that's it there you go

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is that an attack on art Bell well I

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mean it's pointing out the obvious I

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think but you know what do I know that

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are same opposed to complain that I

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asked complicated questions and majority

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of the questions I asked her from our

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listeners

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so make them succinct there folks so

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basically if you ask a question with

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more than one syllable it's a

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complicated subject gene sometimes you

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have to qualify parts of your question I

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do ask involved questions at times

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because this is a very you know involved

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subject and sometimes it's impossible to

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ask a five-word sentence in the form of

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a question it takes it takes longer a

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lot of times you have to have conditions

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if ands or buts this is not a simple

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subject which is one of the things we've

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pointed to over the years in regard to

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the paranormal I mean we want to have a

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simple answer we want the readers digest

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explanation for the UFO mystery we want

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to know for example ok UFOs or

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spaceships the government is hiding the

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secret that's the end of the story when

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we see spirits or strange apparitions

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and haunted houses ok it's Uncle Harry

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coming back from the dead he wants to

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send a message to you

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simple answer maybe it's true though

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half times you look at these things and

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you find out that may not be the entire

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answer so you have to ask a more involve

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question and we're not going to shirk

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from that if there are complicated

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questions to answer we'll ask them if it

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requires a complicated answer to the

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complicated question which sounds almost

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like a tongue twister we'll expect that

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of our guests because we want to know

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what's happening not whether it fits

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within the definition of Reader's Digest

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PR cliff note

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oh yeah guy have the cliff notes of

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course now people named cliff will say

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that we've attacked them oh boy well

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Jean I don't know you can be some things

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to some people but you can't be all

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things to all people or something like

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that I think someone said something like

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that you can please some of the people

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some of the time or something like that

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but you can't please all the people all

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the time no doing our best here kind and

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gentle listeners I don't know that we do

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our best we don't expect that please a

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lot of people we expect to please a few

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so we keep the show going and obviously

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we have more and more listeners every

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some people appear to feel that we're

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doing a good job and we have other

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people who don't want to listen because

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they think we attacked art bell or their

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sacred cow or they think we run too many

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commercials and don't want to bother

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skipping them I don't know what can I

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say I would say that one of the most

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popular subjects in recent years in the

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paranormal field has been the subject of

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crop circles of course when we had Nancy

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Taba on the show some of the most

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wide-ranging forum threads were open

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about her and about the interview we did

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with this psychic she deals with robert

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van den Broek and then we had : Andrews

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who's the guy who pretty much invented

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the term crop circles we had him on we

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had a lot of comments and questions

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about it now on today's episode we're

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going to feature someone who contacted

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us after we had : Andrews on the show

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someone who was actually created crop

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circles one of those people

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his name is Matthew Williams and

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according to his bio he was once busted

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for that offense well you know whatever

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claim to fame you need to hang your hat

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on I've been looking forward to speaking

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with Williams for a number of years

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since he first surfaced and and did some

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pretty interesting expose days online

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concerning the circle makers and team

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Satan John Longo and others who have

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claimed to be behind many of the the

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most elaborate and beautiful of the coop

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circle formations that it's all art in

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the field that sort of thing I do think

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we're going to have a very lively and

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fun time with Matthew and we like you

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said gene we have a ton of questions in

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the question Bank hopefully we can get

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to most of them we'll try to combine

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them and we'll ask a few of our own

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first but this is just going to be

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something I'm really looking forward to

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because any time you've seen pictures of

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crop circles

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it's an incredible amount of artwork and

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I'm lucky enough to basically draw a

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stick figure on a piece of paper I can

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kind of do that I can kind of do a

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little bit with digital artwork but

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crops

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circles you know the mind boggles it

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really does I don't know how I could do

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anything like that Chris you know I

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expect you probably could there's a crop

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circle maker somewhere in there I don't

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think so you don't think so well we know

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we've got one who does do you need to

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need to have the motivation gene I don't

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have the motivation to to perpetrate

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hoaxes or to create to create designs

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and fields or carve up cows in the field

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or whatever

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we've got Matthew Williams the guy were

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one of the guys who makes crop circles

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coming up next with gene and Chris

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wh ey calm we'd like to hear from you if

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you have a comment or question about the

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caste calm okay I've wondered over the

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years just how and why anyone would want

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to make a crop circle as I said to our

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listeners I'm bad enough at stick-figure

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artwork with pen and paper I can do a

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little bit of digital artwork because I

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let the computer figure it out for me

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but just going out into a field I don't

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know I think I'm a hermit that's the

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problem

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we've got Matthew Williams here who's

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one of the people who's done it been

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there done that but it says here from

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your bio Matthew and welcome to the para

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cast by the way know that you're a

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former British government Customs and

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Excise officer does that mean you're the

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guy at the airport who checks out things

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when you're making an international trip

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well I never actually got into the the

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frontline stuff I was more of an office

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office type working in v80 which is like

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tax I don't know if you call it v80 over

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in the States but certainly call it tax

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yeah it was a paperwork job and I

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started working there for a couple of

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years in personnel worked my way into

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VAT and Criminal Investigations as well

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but again it sounds a lot more glamorous

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than it was because I was the guy that

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used to look after the vehicles and

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things like that and do all the

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paperwork and servicing and things

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wasn't quite as frontline as you might

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think you are the bureaucrat behind the

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scenes I was the guy that made it work

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for the guys who are on the front line

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and the most impressive stuff I ever did

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was sometimes drive to the laboratory of

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the government chemist in London with

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sacks full of cocaine and drugs

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sometimes cannabis in the back of a car

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can smell so strongly that by the time

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you get from South Wales an hour a house

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journey you're pretty stoned by the time

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you get there at London oh boy yeah did

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that really happen to you that really

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happened yeah there was two of us in the

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car once an officer myself and he was he

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was getting quite paranoid and I said

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there's pull over at a service station

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and just get some air because the the

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sort of smell in the car is quite

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extreme

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and he was too paranoid to pull over in

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the service station so I said well look

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you know I just closed the doors whilst

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I go in in in the carriage you just lock

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the doors you'll be okay you know and he

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was like yeah but what if somebody tries

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to steal the stuff and I'm like I don't

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think they know we've got it in the car

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huh okay do you also have to start to

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get like potato chips and munchies and

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stuff that's what I was trying to you

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know say to him you know that's gonna

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get some food in a some drinks and he

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didn't wanna he didn't want to do it so

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yeah all right so from that business how

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did you get into this business world the

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paranormal I gather you had a UFO

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sighting I did back in 1991 and I was

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still working for Customs and Excise

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near around that time I started getting

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interested in the in the subjects of the

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paranormal and UFOs it led to me going

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out and interviewing people doing the

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investigations work that a UFO

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investigator does I started to produce a

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magazine called truth seekers review and

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this magazine was you know just a

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photocopied paper thing really not not a

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magazine per se not glossy you know we

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had a sort of well-respected readership

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I was friendly with a lot of the big

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magazines and I was writing articles for

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them as well so my name was getting

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known around the UK I was appearing on

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TV shows and regularly asked to speak on

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radio shows about the UFO subject but

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became pretty well-known and my

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employers didn't like this the

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government were not keen to have

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somebody like me working for them so

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things started getting very awkward at

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work let's put it like that and in the

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end I was sacked so I lost my job and

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they made it quite clear that they were

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going to get rid of me and the way they

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did it was rather underhanded you're a

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technical person gene so you might you

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might appreciate this I was asked to

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design a database for our department and

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what they actually sacked before was

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putting the icons to start the database

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on my desktop they were quite happy to

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have the database but I was not allowed

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to put the icons on my desktop that was

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a breach of departmental security

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apparently and that's what I lost my job

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for can you believe it it hardly makes

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sense to me well you and me as well I

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mean my immediate boss

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you could see when he was speaking to me

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about this he was looking down at the

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floor it was like he didn't want to have

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to tell me that he was gonna get rid of

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me they were sort of putting me on

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suspension he could you could see that

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this guy was kind of showing me with his

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eyes that this was what he was being

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told to do I'm one of those guys that

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lost their lost their job because of

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interest in the UFO subject now for a

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day job not an awful lot to be honest I

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have repaired computers quite a bit over

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the years but at the moment not working

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it kind of goes with the artists

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lifestyle I think yeah it's it's mostly

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dedicated to the crop circle subject and

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I've sort of taken up a lot of my time

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with speaking to people about this you

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know writing on journals and doing a

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YouTube channel I even had my own little

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TV program for a couple of years we did

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this thing called circlemakers TV and

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that was quite an interesting experience

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bringing the circle makers on the air

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you know I'm a technical person I work

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behind the scenes at various live events

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you know I'm sort of the technician type

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guy that plugs it all in turns it on

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makes the graphics come up on the screen

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you know that's the sort of thing I tend

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to do I've dedicated my life to helping

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people understand

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paranormal let's go back to the

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beginning you had this UFO experience in

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1991 can you give us the tales of the

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sighting absolutely yes I remember it

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very clearly it's like one of those

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things you never forget myself and a

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friend of my were driving across a

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mountain road place was called the

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romper valleys which is South Wales I

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was going off to do some video editing

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work in a studio and I drove across this

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mountain road and as you come across one

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mountain pass on to the next side of the

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mountain you get the nice vista of the

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next valley at the time it was nighttime

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but there was a moon quite prominent in

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the sky so we could see the the walls of

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the valley and the cliffs and the road

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and it was it was very interesting sort

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of driving you know with a strong moon

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as I rounded this corner I could see

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quite clearly an orange triangular light

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sitting upright on the side of the hill

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opposite and this was observable whilst

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I was driving I was looking at the road

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and I was looking at this object back

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and forth I had to sort of keep my eyes

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on the road

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so eventually about 30 seconds after

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hides first spotted this thing a line of

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trees came into sight I stopped the car

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and I kind of been squinting at it but I

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haven't drawn my friends attention to it

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I just been looking back and forth back

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and forth and the reason I hadn't drawn

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his attention to it is because we quite

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often get mounting fires in South Wales

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and these mountain fires would possibly

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look like something of this nature but

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as I was looking and trying to analyze

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it I could realize that it had

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shimmering edges but it wasn't flames

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and it was a uniform orange color across

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the whole face of this thing but my

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brain wasn't really taking the enormity

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of what I was seeing so I was kind of

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like what is this what is this but I

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didn't sort of bring my friends

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attention to it I stopped the car at

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that point then I said to him did you

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just see that and he said see what and I

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said did you just see the the orange

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thing over there and he said nope I

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didn't see it I said I was looking at

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the mountainside and I'm like okay so I

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reversed the car up and we're only

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talking a few seconds now clear the

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treeline and there's nothing there all I

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can say is that's what started me off

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with the UFO interest I mean I had read

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didn't even look in the direction that

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that thing had been and then five days

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I'm the para cast we've have Matthew

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Williams someone who makes crop circles

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and what is this five-day thing you're

675
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talking about is that mean you lost five

676
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days of time no no I was fully aware of

677
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what I was doing after I'd had this

678
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strange sighting you know I went out

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doing everything you would normally do

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you know but I was just in the house I

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was doing some menial stuff and it was

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literally like a realization came across

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me that five days previously I'd had

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this strange sighting of something which

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I cannot categorize I cannot find an

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explanation at all for this thing and it

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made me think you know am I actually

688
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sure I did I see that because I mean why

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would five days go by this doesn't make

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any sense it's almost like as if I'd had

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a dream and I thought well if it was a

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dream then you know my friend was there

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let's give him a ring and make sure that

694
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I actually had this this sighting

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because I mentioned it to him so I rang

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him up and I said did I say to you when

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we were driving across the mountain that

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I saw something he said yeah you did say

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something about it I said I didn't

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mention it for the rest of the evening

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nope so I didn't even look over there

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when I would when I drove back and he

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said no and I said well I'm just

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realizing now and I went through it with

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him and said you know why am I

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remembering five days later what I saw

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it's literally like a it's a glitch in

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your normal everyday reality it's

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something that you don't expect to see

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and and I just don't know my one my

711
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brain couldn't deal with it or put it to

712
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sat one site for five days that to me is

713
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quite bizarre did you make an attempt to

714
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see if anybody else had seen this object

715
00:29:03,789 --> 00:29:01,070
were there other sightings around the

716
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area at the time did you do any sort of

717
00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:06,890
research into that event i I didn't into

718
00:29:12,010 --> 00:29:08,960
that one because it's such a remote area

719
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where this mountain passes that you know

720
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you can actually see the cars that are

721
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going up there when you're driving up

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the mountain it takes such a long time

723
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it takes about 10-15 minutes to drive

724
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over there and I was probably the only

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car it's one of those things that you

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just know that nobody else would be

727
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there that's so remote in that instance

728
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I didn't but I did go back to the place

729
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where I had the sighting and I climbed

730
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up this mountain face in exactly the

731
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position where I would have seen this

732
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that is a thing called a care

733
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which is a set of stones which has been

734
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put there by an ancient civilization

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ancient people as a burial site or

736
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sometimes as a marker point for energies

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and I know that these are in the texts

738
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that are out there places where people

739
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have strange encounters and stro see

740
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strange things so you know a cairn mound

741
00:30:01,310 --> 00:29:59,850
I see this object above it what does

742
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:01,320
that mean it's an interesting

743
00:30:06,350 --> 00:30:03,450
introduction a UFO so you were hooked

744
00:30:08,660 --> 00:30:06,360
after this pretty much absolutely s yeah

745
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:08,670
I had to you know sort of look into the

746
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subject more I had to go and find out a

747
00:30:15,410 --> 00:30:12,930
lot more about it and I started to see

748
00:30:17,510 --> 00:30:15,420
myself as somebody that had a strange

749
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experience and couldn't explain it it

750
00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:19,320
made me think well other people might

751
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:20,880
have these experiences as well you know

752
00:30:24,530 --> 00:30:22,650
they maybe are in the same position I'm

753
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in now I think you can't reconcile

754
00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:27,420
what's going on okay well let's move

755
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past this a little bit let's move past

756
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:32,370
this yeah sorry and let's start

757
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wandering here what got you interested

758
00:30:39,980 --> 00:30:37,140
now that you're interested in UFOs what

759
00:30:43,190 --> 00:30:39,990
got you interested specifically in crop

760
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:43,200
circles have that begin well my interest

761
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:46,290
you know led onto investigations I was

762
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kind of like South Wales is you know

763
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number one well-known researcher at the

764
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time and we were putting on conferences

765
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and we had people like John Mack the

766
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famous Harvard professor came to speak

767
00:31:05,540 --> 00:31:02,460
at the conference along with Colin

768
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:05,550
Andrews and Colin was a recent guest on

769
00:31:11,150 --> 00:31:07,890
your show and I've come to know Colin

770
00:31:13,550 --> 00:31:11,160
quite well as the the premier researcher

771
00:31:16,370 --> 00:31:13,560
in crop circles he was at this

772
00:31:18,590 --> 00:31:16,380
conference a cardiff cardiff UFO

773
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:18,600
conference the first of its type by the

774
00:31:23,930 --> 00:31:21,210
way and it was quite quite an unusual

775
00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:23,940
thing for Wales to have a conference

776
00:31:29,390 --> 00:31:27,360
like this and I was sitting there and I

777
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:29,400
realised that this guy who was talking

778
00:31:34,250 --> 00:31:31,410
about these crop circles I hadn't ever

779
00:31:36,340 --> 00:31:34,260
heard about crop circles I had books on

780
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:36,350
UFOs and the paranormal ghosts

781
00:31:42,170 --> 00:31:38,610
spontaneous human combustion the whole

782
00:31:43,070 --> 00:31:42,180
gamut but for some reason crop circles

783
00:31:45,860 --> 00:31:43,080
was something that was completely

784
00:31:47,990 --> 00:31:45,870
unknown to me and there he was Colin

785
00:31:49,130 --> 00:31:48,000
Andrews standing up there and talking

786
00:31:52,940 --> 00:31:49,140
about this amazing

787
00:31:54,350 --> 00:31:52,950
phenomena which unlike ghosts or areas

788
00:31:56,300 --> 00:31:54,360
of the paranormal where you can't get

789
00:31:57,860 --> 00:31:56,310
your hands on it because it doesn't hang

790
00:32:00,680 --> 00:31:57,870
around the ghost doesn't sort of stay

791
00:32:03,710 --> 00:32:00,690
there for you to kind of grab it and do

792
00:32:04,970 --> 00:32:03,720
something with it you know the the

793
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:04,980
subject of crop circle sounded

794
00:32:08,570 --> 00:32:06,450
fascinating because it was something

795
00:32:10,250 --> 00:32:08,580
that you could go and visit you could

796
00:32:16,010 --> 00:32:10,260
walk around you could take a photograph

797
00:32:19,550 --> 00:32:16,020
you could you could sort of explain some

798
00:32:21,380 --> 00:32:19,560
of it by human-made messes but you know

799
00:32:23,510 --> 00:32:21,390
the complicated stuff we were being told

800
00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:23,520
that Colleen was talking to us about was

801
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:24,960
definitely something that couldn't be

802
00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:28,530
created by humans and I thought well wow

803
00:32:32,690 --> 00:32:29,760
you know this is something I've got to

804
00:32:35,450 --> 00:32:32,700
go and look at so you know Wales and

805
00:32:38,090 --> 00:32:35,460
Wiltshire they're about 80 miles apart

806
00:32:40,940 --> 00:32:38,100
so you know it's not a great drive for

807
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:40,950
me to go over and have a look so I found

808
00:32:47,090 --> 00:32:43,050
myself visiting Wiltshire during the

809
00:32:48,590 --> 00:32:47,100
summer I think 1990-1991 you know were

810
00:32:52,130 --> 00:32:48,600
they were the sort of first years in

811
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:52,140
involved in going down to the area and I

812
00:32:55,910 --> 00:32:53,850
met a lot of very interesting people and

813
00:32:59,330 --> 00:32:55,920
saw some quite interesting crop circles

814
00:33:01,850 --> 00:32:59,340
so that's how my interest started but

815
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:01,860
where it changes direction is that I

816
00:33:06,940 --> 00:33:04,770
came to different conclusions about who

817
00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:06,950
or what might be making the crop circles

818
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:10,320
alright so at the beginning when you

819
00:33:14,530 --> 00:33:12,090
first got interested in crop circles

820
00:33:18,770 --> 00:33:14,540
what did you think then and had your

821
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:18,780
expectations change well initially we

822
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:21,290
were told that there was strange

823
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:24,090
electromagnetic effects in crop circles

824
00:33:28,790 --> 00:33:27,210
and that the these couldn't be

825
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:28,800
replicated by people because they were

826
00:33:36,700 --> 00:33:32,610
strange nodal bends at the knuckles and

827
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:36,710
these knuckles are like you're sort of

828
00:33:41,420 --> 00:33:39,450
knuckle on your your finger you know

829
00:33:44,060 --> 00:33:41,430
it's where the the joint changes

830
00:33:46,700 --> 00:33:44,070
direction and on a plant where you have

831
00:33:50,180 --> 00:33:46,710
this little knuckle there's an expanded

832
00:33:53,660 --> 00:33:50,190
and expanded region that when it bends

833
00:33:56,450 --> 00:33:53,670
over in a crop circle would split open

834
00:33:58,610 --> 00:33:56,460
and this splitting that then have

835
00:34:01,120 --> 00:33:58,620
burning around the edges and this

836
00:34:02,940 --> 00:34:01,130
burning was determined to be from

837
00:34:06,180 --> 00:34:02,950
microwaves or from a

838
00:34:08,490 --> 00:34:06,190
sauce and we were told that there was no

839
00:34:10,980 --> 00:34:08,500
way that this obviously could be done by

840
00:34:12,510 --> 00:34:10,990
humans and it sounds you know sort of

841
00:34:14,669 --> 00:34:12,520
fantastic and sounds like something that

842
00:34:18,149 --> 00:34:14,679
you you would imagine couldn't be done

843
00:34:20,399 --> 00:34:18,159
by people then there would be talk about

844
00:34:22,919 --> 00:34:20,409
underlying paths you know that the crop

845
00:34:26,430 --> 00:34:22,929
was laid out in certain directions that

846
00:34:28,619 --> 00:34:26,440
couldn't be replicated by by people and

847
00:34:29,909 --> 00:34:28,629
that certainly the designs were you know

848
00:34:32,310 --> 00:34:29,919
something that what people would find

849
00:34:34,470 --> 00:34:32,320
very hard to do especially out at nights

850
00:34:36,990 --> 00:34:34,480
you know and it's very dark and you know

851
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:37,000
how could people possibly do this so you

852
00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:39,490
know when you listen to the researchers

853
00:34:42,690 --> 00:34:40,720
that were around at the time when I

854
00:34:43,889 --> 00:34:42,700
first started I mean a lot of this

855
00:34:45,629 --> 00:34:43,899
sounds quite plausible

856
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:45,639
you know and unless you get yourself

857
00:34:51,629 --> 00:34:50,050
involved as I did then you may be swayed

858
00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:51,639
to thinking that these things are

859
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:54,310
impossible for people to create but I

860
00:34:57,720 --> 00:34:56,290
went out to find out you know what the

861
00:34:59,970 --> 00:34:57,730
possibilities were and I found out a

862
00:35:00,750 --> 00:34:59,980
very different answer and the rest

863
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:00,760
became history

864
00:35:04,890 --> 00:35:02,530
okay let's talk more about the history

865
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:04,900
so when you went out to see what was

866
00:35:10,589 --> 00:35:08,530
going on what did you discover how did

867
00:35:12,150 --> 00:35:10,599
you discover it and before you answer we

868
00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:12,160
have about a minute and 20 seconds for

869
00:35:16,589 --> 00:35:14,079
the segment so let's start here and

870
00:35:18,420 --> 00:35:16,599
continue in the next one okay well going

871
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:18,430
out into the the crop fields of

872
00:35:21,630 --> 00:35:19,930
Wiltshire you're gonna meet a lot of

873
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:21,640
people who have got had weird

874
00:35:25,950 --> 00:35:24,490
experiences so I mean in and amongst the

875
00:35:27,690 --> 00:35:25,960
actual crop circles themselves you'll

876
00:35:29,579 --> 00:35:27,700
start hearing the stories of the strange

877
00:35:32,430 --> 00:35:29,589
and weird things that happen in crop

878
00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:32,440
circles and this kind of colors your

879
00:35:36,930 --> 00:35:34,510
opinion I think on what you're seeing it

880
00:35:41,309 --> 00:35:36,940
can it can influence you so you you

881
00:35:43,410 --> 00:35:41,319
basically become more more sort of Pro

882
00:35:46,710 --> 00:35:43,420
to the idea that these things can't be

883
00:35:49,559 --> 00:35:46,720
done by people but in the cold clinicals

884
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:49,569
of analysis of what you're seeing you

885
00:35:54,270 --> 00:35:52,089
realize that some of these plants have

886
00:35:57,930 --> 00:35:54,280
been sort of damaged that there are

887
00:36:00,300 --> 00:35:57,940
marks on them and that the marks would

888
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:00,310
indicate some sort of mechanical

889
00:36:05,819 --> 00:36:03,250
pressing motion that there is snapping

890
00:36:08,250 --> 00:36:05,829
and as there are scrapings on the edge

891
00:36:10,890 --> 00:36:08,260
of the plants that also mean that you

892
00:36:13,740 --> 00:36:10,900
know some sort of mechanical influence

893
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:13,750
has been exerted when I first put this

894
00:36:16,410 --> 00:36:15,490
forward to the other researchers around

895
00:36:18,210 --> 00:36:16,420
me I was told

896
00:36:20,070 --> 00:36:18,220
well that's just because you weren't

897
00:36:21,810 --> 00:36:20,080
there early enough and obviously people

898
00:36:23,580 --> 00:36:21,820
have walked around this crop circle and

899
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:23,590
therefore that walking has caused the

900
00:36:27,060 --> 00:36:25,450
damage so you know unless you're there

901
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:27,070
very very early you'll never know the

902
00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:30,010
truth we're going to find out what the

903
00:36:33,660 --> 00:36:32,200
truth about making the crop circle in

904
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case you want to try it yourself maybe

905
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we should have you do a book called

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making crop circles for dummies if there

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isn't one already we have Matthew

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Williams joining us with Jean and Chris

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[Music]

1009
00:41:09,870 --> 00:41:08,079
this is the wrong tire co-author of

1010
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:09,880
beautiful on Cyclopes and other books

1011
00:41:18,690 --> 00:41:16,930
you're listening to the parrot cap hey

1012
00:41:20,599 --> 00:41:18,700
Chris that's an idea we should get

1013
00:41:23,819 --> 00:41:20,609
together with Matthew Williams and do

1014
00:41:26,519 --> 00:41:23,829
making the crop circles for dummies or

1015
00:41:29,130 --> 00:41:26,529
at least to include me in this book the

1016
00:41:31,559 --> 00:41:29,140
Complete Idiot's Guide to making crop

1017
00:41:34,709 --> 00:41:31,569
circle circles for dummies you like that

1018
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:34,719
one huh Matthew tell us more

1019
00:41:39,329 --> 00:41:37,450
yeah there is actually a thing called

1020
00:41:41,279 --> 00:41:39,339
the field guide which is a book that's

1021
00:41:44,309 --> 00:41:41,289
been written by Mark Cockington and

1022
00:41:46,229 --> 00:41:44,319
robber ving and you can have a look at

1023
00:41:48,299 --> 00:41:46,239
how you could actually make a crop

1024
00:41:50,249 --> 00:41:48,309
circle from that book but I mean back in

1025
00:41:52,229 --> 00:41:50,259
my day there wasn't any such book and

1026
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:52,239
you know the only people who could speak

1027
00:41:57,509 --> 00:41:54,130
to or people like Colin Andrews busty

1028
00:41:59,309 --> 00:41:57,519
Taylor and lacy Pringle all of the the

1029
00:42:03,269 --> 00:41:59,319
general experts who'd been at this for a

1030
00:42:05,670 --> 00:42:03,279
long time looking for answers but I took

1031
00:42:08,459 --> 00:42:05,680
what I was hearing from Colin as an

1032
00:42:10,620 --> 00:42:08,469
example and I tried to apply it to what

1033
00:42:13,019 --> 00:42:10,630
I was seeing in the fields and I

1034
00:42:15,329 --> 00:42:13,029
couldn't reconcile what I was being told

1035
00:42:18,779 --> 00:42:15,339
in these lectures that I would find from

1036
00:42:20,579 --> 00:42:18,789
what I was seeing as I said that some

1037
00:42:22,859 --> 00:42:20,589
people had explained to me if I'm seeing

1038
00:42:25,019 --> 00:42:22,869
damage it's probably because I wasn't

1039
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:25,029
there early enough so it became to me

1040
00:42:29,219 --> 00:42:27,249
obvious that what I needed to do was try

1041
00:42:31,589 --> 00:42:29,229
and get information about when these

1042
00:42:33,809 --> 00:42:31,599
circles were going to appear and be

1043
00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:33,819
there really early in the morning

1044
00:42:37,620 --> 00:42:35,440
now that involved either having a good

1045
00:42:39,390 --> 00:42:37,630
network of contacts who would tell you

1046
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:39,400
when the crop circles had been reported

1047
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:40,930
as appearing so you could get out there

1048
00:42:46,319 --> 00:42:44,650
you know 5 o'clock 6 o'clock a.m. and be

1049
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:46,329
there first and then see whether there's

1050
00:42:50,609 --> 00:42:48,729
any damage also you can do sky watching

1051
00:42:52,140 --> 00:42:50,619
you know which will take you through the

1052
00:42:54,599 --> 00:42:52,150
night and then if you're lucky enough

1053
00:42:56,699 --> 00:42:54,609
you'll be in one of the areas where the

1054
00:42:58,739 --> 00:42:56,709
Sun will come up and a crop circle will

1055
00:43:00,839 --> 00:42:58,749
be there in front of you and then you

1056
00:43:02,309 --> 00:43:00,849
have obviously got the advantage of

1057
00:43:04,170 --> 00:43:02,319
being one of the very first people to go

1058
00:43:06,089 --> 00:43:04,180
into the crop circle so this is what I

1059
00:43:08,789 --> 00:43:06,099
did I tried to get the information to

1060
00:43:10,319 --> 00:43:08,799
get there early and lo and behold

1061
00:43:12,989 --> 00:43:10,329
on some occasions there were crop

1062
00:43:15,749 --> 00:43:12,999
circles that appeared beneath where I

1063
00:43:17,430 --> 00:43:15,759
was sky watching one famous place that

1064
00:43:18,579 --> 00:43:17,440
we do sky watching in Wiltshire is

1065
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:18,589
called map Hill

1066
00:43:24,279 --> 00:43:21,410
and you used to have you know 10 or 20

1067
00:43:26,410 --> 00:43:24,289
people on occasions some people camping

1068
00:43:28,539 --> 00:43:26,420
all night long Steven Greer would turn

1069
00:43:31,630 --> 00:43:28,549
up sometimes in the summer with his with

1070
00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:31,640
this group and lasers and lights and

1071
00:43:35,410 --> 00:43:33,440
we'd all mingle together and as I say

1072
00:43:38,739 --> 00:43:35,420
you'd get into the crop circles very

1073
00:43:41,499 --> 00:43:38,749
early so that's how I started I got in

1074
00:43:43,509 --> 00:43:41,509
there early and I yet I didn't find

1075
00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:43,519
quite what I was expecting to find I

1076
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:45,680
found that there were still scratch

1077
00:43:50,049 --> 00:43:48,170
marks on the plants and that they looked

1078
00:43:52,749 --> 00:43:50,059
like there were mechanical sort of

1079
00:43:55,209 --> 00:43:52,759
Affairs going on and it looked like the

1080
00:43:57,489 --> 00:43:55,219
work of people and I quite quickly in

1081
00:44:00,099 --> 00:43:57,499
those early years decided that it

1082
00:44:01,989 --> 00:44:00,109
probably was people but what I needed to

1083
00:44:05,349 --> 00:44:01,999
do was to speak to the people involved

1084
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:05,359
and and I learned that from speaking to

1085
00:44:09,339 --> 00:44:06,890
other researchers that there was a big

1086
00:44:10,900 --> 00:44:09,349
taboo involved in this because the the

1087
00:44:12,849 --> 00:44:10,910
circle makers were not the sorts of

1088
00:44:15,910 --> 00:44:12,859
people that you would want to return

1089
00:44:18,579 --> 00:44:15,920
with or speak to but being somebody

1090
00:44:20,829 --> 00:44:18,589
perhaps my Welsh upbringing you know

1091
00:44:22,690 --> 00:44:20,839
slightly rebellious I didn't want to

1092
00:44:25,180 --> 00:44:22,700
sort of follow the flow I wanted to have

1093
00:44:26,859 --> 00:44:25,190
answers and I thought well if these

1094
00:44:29,529 --> 00:44:26,869
people are there let's go and speak to

1095
00:44:31,299 --> 00:44:29,539
them let's not be you know it's not be

1096
00:44:33,729 --> 00:44:31,309
sort of offended by their their

1097
00:44:35,380 --> 00:44:33,739
existence let's go and find out the

1098
00:44:36,789 --> 00:44:35,390
proof and find out the answers by

1099
00:44:39,219 --> 00:44:36,799
speaking to the people and see whether

1100
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:39,229
they've got anything worth saying so I

1101
00:44:44,049 --> 00:44:41,450
went out spoke to the circle makers and

1102
00:44:47,469 --> 00:44:44,059
made friends with them as much as one

1103
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:47,479
can because the circle makers back then

1104
00:44:53,049 --> 00:44:51,049
were very very hard to approach I

1105
00:44:55,499 --> 00:44:53,059
suppose is the best word give us a

1106
00:44:58,450 --> 00:44:55,509
timeframe now this is what 93 by now or

1107
00:45:00,999 --> 00:44:58,460
yeah this is like we I would have met a

1108
00:45:05,319 --> 00:45:01,009
few circle makers along the way but not

1109
00:45:07,749 --> 00:45:05,329
spoken to them by over 93 I was starting

1110
00:45:09,370 --> 00:45:07,759
to approach these circle makers and I

1111
00:45:11,529 --> 00:45:09,380
had in fact made a couple of small

1112
00:45:13,749 --> 00:45:11,539
circles by then but these were just

1113
00:45:15,759 --> 00:45:13,759
experimental little circles to sort of

1114
00:45:19,089 --> 00:45:15,769
you know see how the flood that crop can

1115
00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:19,099
be flattened down by a person yeah it

1116
00:45:23,469 --> 00:45:21,920
wasn't until about 1993 that you know I

1117
00:45:25,870 --> 00:45:23,479
started approaching some of the circle

1118
00:45:28,029 --> 00:45:25,880
makers in the pub called the barge in

1119
00:45:31,340 --> 00:45:28,039
this is where people tended to meet up

1120
00:45:32,540 --> 00:45:31,350
and I got some really bad reactions

1121
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:32,550
some of them you know they were kind of

1122
00:45:36,170 --> 00:45:34,410
well you're a crop circle researcher

1123
00:45:38,300 --> 00:45:36,180
aren't you you know we can't speak to

1124
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:38,310
you and I couldn't understand why there

1125
00:45:42,980 --> 00:45:40,490
was this kind of resentment towards

1126
00:45:45,170 --> 00:45:42,990
researchers I kind of understand it now

1127
00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:45,180
because you know it's because of all the

1128
00:45:48,890 --> 00:45:47,280
bad sort of things that people say about

1129
00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:48,900
circlemakers when they don't know them

1130
00:45:52,220 --> 00:45:50,880
you know which is I get this myself I

1131
00:45:54,020 --> 00:45:52,230
mean I get accused of all sorts of

1132
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:54,030
things but you know back to the point it

1133
00:45:58,550 --> 00:45:57,090
is I went to this pub and tried to make

1134
00:46:00,110 --> 00:45:58,560
friends with these circle makers and

1135
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:00,120
they didn't want to speak to me I

1136
00:46:04,100 --> 00:46:02,130
thought to myself well how do you get to

1137
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:04,110
speak to a circle maker how do you sort

1138
00:46:08,540 --> 00:46:06,570
of really prove to them that you're

1139
00:46:10,490 --> 00:46:08,550
somebody they can trust and I thought

1140
00:46:13,370 --> 00:46:10,500
well one way to do it is to actually

1141
00:46:15,290 --> 00:46:13,380
make a crop circle not knowing how to do

1142
00:46:18,620 --> 00:46:15,300
it before I do you have an artistic

1143
00:46:21,460 --> 00:46:18,630
background here I do yes I mean I was

1144
00:46:23,710 --> 00:46:21,470
involved with art at school and

1145
00:46:26,180 --> 00:46:23,720
technical drawing as well so

1146
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:26,190
architectural technical drawing I was

1147
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:27,810
always good at that sort of stuff as

1148
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:31,410
well as computers not not so hot at

1149
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:34,170
maths but I think that the geometry that

1150
00:46:38,270 --> 00:46:36,690
you get in architectural drawing that

1151
00:46:40,820 --> 00:46:38,280
sort of certainly puts you in a stead

1152
00:46:43,940 --> 00:46:40,830
for understanding ways that you could

1153
00:46:45,770 --> 00:46:43,950
measure things out to draw you sort of

1154
00:46:48,410 --> 00:46:45,780
shapes at night you've got to understand

1155
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:48,420
a little bit about measurements and yeah

1156
00:46:53,810 --> 00:46:50,490
so I do have a background in that area

1157
00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:53,820
I'm quite sort of logical in the way I

1158
00:46:57,950 --> 00:46:56,250
approach the designs you have to

1159
00:46:59,450 --> 00:46:57,960
actually scale these things up which is

1160
00:47:01,430 --> 00:46:59,460
another thing technical drawing can help

1161
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:01,440
you with so you can take a drawing

1162
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:03,690
that's only you know thirty centimeters

1163
00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:05,850
across on a page and you have to scale

1164
00:47:09,830 --> 00:47:07,920
that up to provide measurements and

1165
00:47:11,900 --> 00:47:09,840
angles that you can take out into a

1166
00:47:14,420 --> 00:47:11,910
field and work out in in complete

1167
00:47:16,580 --> 00:47:14,430
darkness so yeah I do have a sort of

1168
00:47:19,460 --> 00:47:16,590
background in that so the beginning here

1169
00:47:21,260 --> 00:47:19,470
is that you have to start with a drawing

1170
00:47:22,910 --> 00:47:21,270
room you don't just go out there and do

1171
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:22,920
something you have to have a plan a game

1172
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:26,490
plan you do but as you become more and

1173
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:28,800
more experienced then there are certain

1174
00:47:33,980 --> 00:47:32,010
principles which it's kind of hard over

1175
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:33,990
a radio show to explain but I I'll give

1176
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:36,930
you there there's a magical number which

1177
00:47:42,020 --> 00:47:39,930
is 6 and so people might go oh you know

1178
00:47:45,140 --> 00:47:42,030
why this number six is that you know

1179
00:47:47,450 --> 00:47:45,150
sort of like a sinister number and it's

1180
00:47:50,089 --> 00:47:47,460
part of the reason I call myself on the

1181
00:47:53,809 --> 00:47:50,099
internet I call myself truth seekers 666

1182
00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:53,819
and oh boy I don't have got a lot of lot

1183
00:47:58,880 --> 00:47:56,160
of hassle for that but the reason is

1184
00:48:01,339 --> 00:47:58,890
because people misunderstand this number

1185
00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:01,349
six and it's not necessarily a negative

1186
00:48:06,529 --> 00:48:04,079
number it's actually in are in sort of

1187
00:48:09,980 --> 00:48:06,539
design terms quite an interesting number

1188
00:48:12,380 --> 00:48:09,990
because the radius of a circle which is

1189
00:48:14,180 --> 00:48:12,390
the distance from the middle point of

1190
00:48:16,460 --> 00:48:14,190
the circle to the outer circumference

1191
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:16,470
edge so if you've got if you've got a

1192
00:48:20,599 --> 00:48:17,970
compass and you're drawing a circle you

1193
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:20,609
need that radius distance if you take

1194
00:48:24,859 --> 00:48:22,410
that radius distance and put it along

1195
00:48:26,599 --> 00:48:24,869
the edge of the circle ie in the circle

1196
00:48:29,779 --> 00:48:26,609
a bit that's known as a circumference

1197
00:48:31,849 --> 00:48:29,789
it fits perfectly six times and I don't

1198
00:48:34,130 --> 00:48:31,859
know if many people know that but I

1199
00:48:35,690 --> 00:48:34,140
always try to show them on paper you

1200
00:48:39,710 --> 00:48:35,700
know that this is actually a very very

1201
00:48:41,180 --> 00:48:39,720
simple geometrical trick that you can do

1202
00:48:44,180 --> 00:48:41,190
to create quite a lot of interesting

1203
00:48:46,789 --> 00:48:44,190
shapes so with one measurement which is

1204
00:48:50,059 --> 00:48:46,799
your radius which is basically one

1205
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:50,069
person standing with their their their

1206
00:48:55,009 --> 00:48:52,650
heel on the ground they measure out the

1207
00:48:58,430 --> 00:48:55,019
tape measure to a set distance to

1208
00:49:01,130 --> 00:48:58,440
another person who uses his heel to walk

1209
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:01,140
sideways to create the line of the crop

1210
00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:03,119
circle that measurement if you maintain

1211
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:05,369
that measurement once you've done that

1212
00:49:10,339 --> 00:49:07,890
circular edge if you go out to the edge

1213
00:49:12,799 --> 00:49:10,349
and you measure six of those same

1214
00:49:14,599 --> 00:49:12,809
radiuses around the edge it will meet

1215
00:49:16,849 --> 00:49:14,609
back at the the point where you've

1216
00:49:19,489 --> 00:49:16,859
started and then you can put in a

1217
00:49:22,779 --> 00:49:19,499
six-sided shape you can put in a star of

1218
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:22,789
david' a triangle sets of triangles

1219
00:49:27,019 --> 00:49:25,650
radiation symbols all sorts of things

1220
00:49:29,150 --> 00:49:27,029
can be measured out with with this

1221
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:29,160
simple basic measurement and I found

1222
00:49:34,309 --> 00:49:30,450
that fascinating but I mean it's

1223
00:49:36,799 --> 00:49:34,319
something that you learn that you can do

1224
00:49:39,829 --> 00:49:36,809
which doesn't require a design so to

1225
00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:39,839
answer your point yes you do need a lot

1226
00:49:42,859 --> 00:49:41,730
of control over the designs that you use

1227
00:49:45,140 --> 00:49:42,869
if you're going to do something which

1228
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:45,150
doesn't use this simple geometry but

1229
00:49:48,979 --> 00:49:47,130
there are some things you can do without

1230
00:49:50,690 --> 00:49:48,989
a design if you had to you could just

1231
00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:50,700
run out into a field and do one one of

1232
00:49:55,670 --> 00:49:52,529
these complicated six fold geometries

1233
00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:55,680
without any real design early on there

1234
00:50:01,749 --> 00:49:58,160
was a perception that crop circles

1235
00:50:04,299 --> 00:50:01,759
we're symbols of et in some way related

1236
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:04,309
to the UFO mystery but yeah well you're

1237
00:50:08,710 --> 00:50:06,890
telling us is that some very smart and

1238
00:50:10,509 --> 00:50:08,720
talented people are going out in the

1239
00:50:12,789 --> 00:50:10,519
fields and doing works of art well

1240
00:50:16,029 --> 00:50:12,799
you're probably familiar with the name

1241
00:50:17,970 --> 00:50:16,039
Doug Bower and Dave Chorley Doug and

1242
00:50:20,950 --> 00:50:17,980
Dave that used to be called these

1243
00:50:22,660 --> 00:50:20,960
artists that are sided they've got

1244
00:50:24,069 --> 00:50:22,670
themselves a bad name because you know

1245
00:50:25,690 --> 00:50:24,079
people in the crop circle community you

1246
00:50:27,370 --> 00:50:25,700
say well you know who are these horrible

1247
00:50:28,450 --> 00:50:27,380
people why would they do this you know

1248
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:28,460
and why are they trying to sort of

1249
00:50:33,130 --> 00:50:31,130
confuse things and do they work for the

1250
00:50:35,170 --> 00:50:33,140
government were they paid to say these

1251
00:50:37,930 --> 00:50:35,180
things and I really do believe that

1252
00:50:41,079 --> 00:50:37,940
these guys went out and did this as they

1253
00:50:43,900 --> 00:50:41,089
say they did they were very interested

1254
00:50:46,450 --> 00:50:43,910
in art and one of them was interested in

1255
00:50:49,990 --> 00:50:46,460
UFOs and you've probably heard the story

1256
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:50,000
about him seeing a story about a UFO

1257
00:50:54,220 --> 00:50:53,210
saucer nest in Tully in Queensland right

1258
00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:54,230
when he's six

1259
00:50:58,930 --> 00:50:56,480
that's the one yeah and he was living in

1260
00:51:01,089 --> 00:50:58,940
Australia at the time this is Doug Bower

1261
00:51:02,589 --> 00:51:01,099
he came back to the United Kingdom with

1262
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:02,599
this story in his head you know we've

1263
00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:04,250
got these great wheat fields they look

1264
00:51:10,420 --> 00:51:07,730
so serene and the landscape is wonderful

1265
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:10,430
in the summer with wheat and rapeseed

1266
00:51:14,380 --> 00:51:12,650
the yellow plants and the brownish

1267
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:14,390
plants and it looks lovely you know

1268
00:51:19,269 --> 00:51:16,490
you've got these great vistas which are

1269
00:51:21,299 --> 00:51:19,279
overlooking these fields and as an

1270
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:21,309
artist he would spend his time doing

1271
00:51:26,499 --> 00:51:24,170
watercolors and you know walking the

1272
00:51:28,809 --> 00:51:26,509
hills he was a wildlife sound recordist

1273
00:51:31,509 --> 00:51:28,819
so this guy was out in nature all the

1274
00:51:37,659 --> 00:51:31,519
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1333
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1334
00:54:17,500 --> 00:54:14,780
crop-circle

1335
00:54:19,569 --> 00:54:17,510
artists UFO investigator joining Jane

1336
00:54:21,789 --> 00:54:19,579
and Chris and you were talking about one

1337
00:54:24,579 --> 00:54:21,799
particular person here we had to kind of

1338
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break little Doug and Dave yeah good old

1339
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Doug and Dave yeah well sounds like

1340
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ideas over Doug and Dave show with the

1341
00:54:33,970 --> 00:54:32,000
morning zoo brought to you on this

1342
00:54:35,319 --> 00:54:33,980
station well if it was a radio show I'm

1343
00:54:38,109 --> 00:54:35,329
sure they'd have some great tales to

1344
00:54:39,490 --> 00:54:38,119
tell but unfortunately one of them is is

1345
00:54:42,940 --> 00:54:39,500
no longer with us

1346
00:54:44,620 --> 00:54:42,950
Dave Chorley passed away but Doug is is

1347
00:54:46,809 --> 00:54:44,630
getting on in years but he is still

1348
00:54:49,930 --> 00:54:46,819
around yeah he was impressed by the

1349
00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:49,940
landscape as an artist and he thought

1350
00:54:55,390 --> 00:54:52,880
back in his head to the story of the the

1351
00:54:57,339 --> 00:54:55,400
Queensland saucer nest and thought well

1352
00:54:59,890 --> 00:54:57,349
what if I was to stick something in the

1353
00:55:01,510 --> 00:54:59,900
landscape and see how people react what

1354
00:55:04,180 --> 00:55:01,520
if I was to make a mark in one of these

1355
00:55:06,220 --> 00:55:04,190
lovely wheat fields so together they

1356
00:55:08,230 --> 00:55:06,230
decided to do these designs which were

1357
00:55:10,539 --> 00:55:08,240
just simple circles and not very

1358
00:55:13,750 --> 00:55:10,549
impressive just to see how people would

1359
00:55:16,660 --> 00:55:13,760
react now at the time researchers came

1360
00:55:18,940 --> 00:55:16,670
along like Colin Andrews and and various

1361
00:55:20,079 --> 00:55:18,950
others back in the day they were very

1362
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:20,089
impressed by this and they thought that

1363
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:22,970
this must be a sign of alien you know

1364
00:55:28,270 --> 00:55:25,490
involvement extraterrestrials landing in

1365
00:55:31,450 --> 00:55:28,280
the fields whatever you like and they

1366
00:55:34,359 --> 00:55:31,460
carried away with this sort of idea they

1367
00:55:38,410 --> 00:55:34,369
took it on and started researching this

1368
00:55:41,650 --> 00:55:38,420
stuff as Colin and his friends were

1369
00:55:44,190 --> 00:55:41,660
researching the the talk was that you

1370
00:55:47,380 --> 00:55:44,200
know if this was good as get somewhere

1371
00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:47,390
new it would it would probably be in the

1372
00:55:52,299 --> 00:55:50,089
form of a message and suddenly the crop

1373
00:55:55,690 --> 00:55:52,309
circle started exhibiting messages so

1374
00:55:57,700 --> 00:55:55,700
it's almost as if you know Doug and Dave

1375
00:56:00,190 --> 00:55:57,710
were kind of listening in and I know

1376
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:00,200
they were listening in there are stories

1377
00:56:05,950 --> 00:56:03,290
about phone calls and sort of Doug and

1378
00:56:08,319 --> 00:56:05,960
Dave turning up to lectures done by

1379
00:56:09,140 --> 00:56:08,329
Colin Andrews and they didn't know who

1380
00:56:10,730 --> 00:56:09,150
they were

1381
00:56:12,980 --> 00:56:10,740
they would be cut to the front and sort

1382
00:56:14,839 --> 00:56:12,990
of like shake Colin Andrews hand and say

1383
00:56:15,980 --> 00:56:14,849
like hello you know I'm I'm very

1384
00:56:17,839 --> 00:56:15,990
interested in what you've been talking

1385
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:17,849
about you know and and then of course

1386
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:19,650
they would go out and do crop circles

1387
00:56:23,569 --> 00:56:21,930
practically to order because they would

1388
00:56:25,569 --> 00:56:23,579
have heard a Colin Andrews lecture or a

1389
00:56:28,849 --> 00:56:25,579
busty Taylor lecture and they were

1390
00:56:31,519 --> 00:56:28,859
already imitating life yeah it's a

1391
00:56:34,789 --> 00:56:31,529
feedback loop yeah and I mean they would

1392
00:56:36,079 --> 00:56:34,799
even report these crop circles to Colin

1393
00:56:37,730 --> 00:56:36,089
Andrews you know they would actually

1394
00:56:39,140 --> 00:56:37,740
ring him up and say oh you know I was

1395
00:56:40,849 --> 00:56:39,150
actually walking out in the countryside

1396
00:56:42,799 --> 00:56:40,859
and I saw something this morning because

1397
00:56:44,599 --> 00:56:42,809
you know I'm doing my wildlife sound

1398
00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:44,609
recording and and Colin would say oh

1399
00:56:48,380 --> 00:56:46,319
thank you very much you know and he

1400
00:56:50,029 --> 00:56:48,390
would he would wander off and there

1401
00:56:51,859 --> 00:56:50,039
would be the crop circle so he was he

1402
00:56:54,079 --> 00:56:51,869
was getting the top information you know

1403
00:56:56,750 --> 00:56:54,089
from these the guys that were actually

1404
00:56:58,730 --> 00:56:56,760
making this stuff okay let's get a quick

1405
00:57:00,470 --> 00:56:58,740
time check the first crop circle that

1406
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:00,480
I'm aware of that had any pattern of

1407
00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:03,690
complexity was in 86 and cheese foot

1408
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:05,520
head where you have a circle with a with

1409
00:57:09,349 --> 00:57:07,410
a narrow band around the outside of it

1410
00:57:12,109 --> 00:57:09,359
give us a time frame when this was

1411
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:12,119
happening or are we talking mid 80s then

1412
00:57:18,319 --> 00:57:15,450
or yeah I mean it escapes me now exactly

1413
00:57:20,569 --> 00:57:18,329
when Doug and Dave started but well they

1414
00:57:22,370 --> 00:57:20,579
started in the late 70s I believe but

1415
00:57:26,349 --> 00:57:22,380
when did call and get involved I think

1416
00:57:30,829 --> 00:57:26,359
83 or 82 yeah I mean I think it was the

1417
00:57:33,410 --> 00:57:30,839
early 80s in 1940 so in 1974 I'm

1418
00:57:36,500 --> 00:57:33,420
thinking now so Doug and Dave was

1419
00:57:38,089 --> 00:57:36,510
starting and you know the cheese furred

1420
00:57:40,370 --> 00:57:38,099
head was definitely the area that they

1421
00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:40,380
were working in because they were from

1422
00:57:44,390 --> 00:57:42,569
Southampton that's only a small drive

1423
00:57:47,029 --> 00:57:44,400
from them you know sort of like a half

1424
00:57:48,799 --> 00:57:47,039
an hour drive in the car and you've got

1425
00:57:51,380 --> 00:57:48,809
the best hills for looking down over

1426
00:57:53,510 --> 00:57:51,390
into the into the crop fields to sort of

1427
00:57:56,839 --> 00:57:53,520
view these things so you know they were

1428
00:57:58,819 --> 00:57:56,849
starting then but I mean any pre-dating

1429
00:58:01,640 --> 00:57:58,829
crop circles I suppose you're getting

1430
00:58:03,410 --> 00:58:01,650
towards what you're suggesting they

1431
00:58:06,019 --> 00:58:03,420
wouldn't have been done by Doug and Dave

1432
00:58:07,819 --> 00:58:06,029
and well I mean we have the famous

1433
00:58:09,470 --> 00:58:07,829
woodcut of the mowing double back in the

1434
00:58:12,230 --> 00:58:09,480
15th century and there's other reports

1435
00:58:14,150 --> 00:58:12,240
too and then 17th and 18th century well

1436
00:58:16,309 --> 00:58:14,160
what do you make of those interesting

1437
00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:16,319
you should mention that because I think

1438
00:58:21,589 --> 00:58:18,960
people kind of overlook the the general

1439
00:58:22,970 --> 00:58:21,599
flavor to that story they say you know

1440
00:58:24,970 --> 00:58:22,980
if you go back to the

1441
00:58:28,099 --> 00:58:24,980
early sort of woodcutting there was this

1442
00:58:29,690 --> 00:58:28,109
sort of mowing devil and he created a

1443
00:58:31,700 --> 00:58:29,700
crop circle in the field and and that's

1444
00:58:33,830 --> 00:58:31,710
about as far as in into the story as

1445
00:58:37,070 --> 00:58:33,840
people go if you actually follow the

1446
00:58:39,770 --> 00:58:37,080
whole story it starts off with somebody

1447
00:58:41,750 --> 00:58:39,780
who's a farmer being approached by a

1448
00:58:43,099 --> 00:58:41,760
gentleman saying I would like to cut

1449
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:43,109
your field I would like to mow your

1450
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:45,330
field for you you know and you know with

1451
00:58:49,910 --> 00:58:47,490
my scythe I can cut your wheat field and

1452
00:58:51,140 --> 00:58:49,920
the farmer sort of says no thank you I

1453
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:51,150
don't need your help

1454
00:58:56,630 --> 00:58:53,130
you know sort of I'm quite happy on my

1455
00:58:58,430 --> 00:58:56,640
own this guy goes away and because he's

1456
00:59:02,270 --> 00:58:58,440
upset that the farmer didn't employ him

1457
00:59:04,340 --> 00:59:02,280
he curses the field also tells the

1458
00:59:06,500 --> 00:59:04,350
farmer he's gonna curse the field the

1459
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:06,510
farmer kind of you know sort of brushes

1460
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:08,570
this off they go their separate ways

1461
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:11,490
then at night something happens in that

1462
00:59:16,910 --> 00:59:14,490
field a mark or a shape is created and

1463
00:59:19,010 --> 00:59:16,920
when the farmer gets up in the morning

1464
00:59:20,990 --> 00:59:19,020
he thinks to himself oh my god you know

1465
00:59:23,450 --> 00:59:21,000
the devil really has done something in

1466
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:23,460
my field but I mean if you apply Occam's

1467
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:27,210
razor here to the way that you know the

1468
00:59:31,460 --> 00:59:29,850
way the things tend to go I'm putting

1469
00:59:33,770 --> 00:59:31,470
the pieces together you've got your this

1470
00:59:35,150 --> 00:59:33,780
guy who's disgruntled you know - what's

1471
00:59:37,010 --> 00:59:35,160
warning him that something's gonna

1472
00:59:39,470 --> 00:59:37,020
happen in his field and lo and behold

1473
00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:39,480
something happens in the field so that's

1474
00:59:44,590 --> 00:59:42,240
that's probably some of your first crop

1475
00:59:47,150 --> 00:59:44,600
circles would come from from disgruntled

1476
00:59:49,130 --> 00:59:47,160
farmhands saying well I'll teach that

1477
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:49,140
guy if he's not gonna hire me you know

1478
00:59:53,780 --> 00:59:50,970
and I mean if the farmers name had been

1479
00:59:56,180 --> 00:59:53,790
Colin Andrews and the the sort of you

1480
00:59:58,370 --> 00:59:56,190
know the other guy he had been Doug and

1481
01:00:00,260 --> 00:59:58,380
Dave you know like threatening to sort

1482
01:00:02,420 --> 01:00:00,270
of curse his feel then you know you've

1483
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:02,430
got something 500 years previous that

1484
01:00:06,500 --> 01:00:04,010
would would match exactly today's

1485
01:00:08,660 --> 01:00:06,510
scenario but well that's interesting

1486
01:00:11,359 --> 01:00:08,670
what this is a question that's cropped

1487
01:00:13,730 --> 01:00:11,369
up on our forms where you can ask

1488
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:13,740
questions of our guest at forum dr.

1489
01:00:19,340 --> 01:00:16,770
Peric ascom and it has to do with the

1490
01:00:21,950 --> 01:00:19,350
the actual farmers back in the early

1491
01:00:23,660 --> 01:00:21,960
days I would think that that very few if

1492
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:23,670
any of these farmers were aware that

1493
01:00:27,530 --> 01:00:25,050
people were going to be going into their

1494
01:00:31,130 --> 01:00:27,540
fields and you know making these these

1495
01:00:33,349 --> 01:00:31,140
these glyphs how prevalent now is

1496
01:00:35,740 --> 01:00:33,359
collusion between circle makers and

1497
01:00:37,570 --> 01:00:35,750
farmers are hand-in-hand

1498
01:00:40,540 --> 01:00:37,580
what percentage would you say of these

1499
01:00:42,580 --> 01:00:40,550
are done clandestinely in terms of the

1500
01:00:45,670 --> 01:00:42,590
farmer not knowing that it's gonna

1501
01:00:47,980 --> 01:00:45,680
happen versus crop circles that are done

1502
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:47,990
with their cooperation sure I mean

1503
01:00:53,500 --> 01:00:50,210
there's never been any collusion between

1504
01:00:56,770 --> 01:00:53,510
circle makers and farmers we get asked

1505
01:00:59,340 --> 01:00:56,780
this a lot I've never once ever had

1506
01:01:02,550 --> 01:00:59,350
somebody tell me that they knew of a

1507
01:01:05,350 --> 01:01:02,560
farmer commissioning a crop circle

1508
01:01:07,780 --> 01:01:05,360
sometimes circle makers have gone to the

1509
01:01:10,030 --> 01:01:07,790
farmers in order to hire a field in

1510
01:01:12,540 --> 01:01:10,040
order to be able to work sometimes for

1511
01:01:15,340 --> 01:01:12,550
commercial projects like advertising

1512
01:01:17,050 --> 01:01:15,350
logos or television programs that wish

1513
01:01:19,900 --> 01:01:17,060
to sort of explore the circle making

1514
01:01:22,030 --> 01:01:19,910
thing but really the farmers are

1515
01:01:24,100 --> 01:01:22,040
literally just farmers they just get on

1516
01:01:25,420 --> 01:01:24,110
with their own business and most of them

1517
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:25,430
would tell you that they're not happy to

1518
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:27,050
have crop circles on their land and they

1519
01:01:31,420 --> 01:01:28,730
don't like the damage they don't like

1520
01:01:32,740 --> 01:01:31,430
the attention it creates the the groups

1521
01:01:34,780 --> 01:01:32,750
of tourists who turn up

1522
01:01:37,930 --> 01:01:34,790
so really farmers would not like to have

1523
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:37,940
nothing to do with this at all but it is

1524
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:39,410
a question we get asked a lot but know

1525
01:01:44,500 --> 01:01:41,570
no evidence ok we'll just check in

1526
01:01:46,660 --> 01:01:44,510
because I would think that that it would

1527
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:46,670
it would be a financial loss because a

1528
01:01:52,210 --> 01:01:49,370
lot of that crop that's laid over is not

1529
01:01:54,550 --> 01:01:52,220
going to be salvageable in some cases

1530
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:54,560
it's not salvageable it just depends on

1531
01:01:59,440 --> 01:01:56,450
whether the farmer is prepared to lower

1532
01:02:02,080 --> 01:01:59,450
is combine harvesters blades down to be

1533
01:02:03,940 --> 01:02:02,090
able to pick it up you know sometimes

1534
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:03,950
when people walk through the field they

1535
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:06,290
tend to trample the the seeds off the

1536
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:09,170
heads so there isn't much to recover but

1537
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:12,890
if if the the farmer can be sort of

1538
01:02:16,630 --> 01:02:15,290
keeping people out of the field then you

1539
01:02:19,180 --> 01:02:16,640
know the visitors won't end up

1540
01:02:21,370 --> 01:02:19,190
destroying that crop so it's really the

1541
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:21,380
visitors that are the problem if people

1542
01:02:26,050 --> 01:02:23,450
would suggest enjoy crop circles from

1543
01:02:27,610 --> 01:02:26,060
the photographs rather than visiting the

1544
01:02:29,590 --> 01:02:27,620
field then you know the farmer wouldn't

1545
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:29,600
really have much to lose because he

1546
01:02:34,270 --> 01:02:31,610
could just lower that combine harvester

1547
01:02:36,310 --> 01:02:34,280
down and pull the crop back up so really

1548
01:02:41,380 --> 01:02:36,320
it's it's just the visitors that caused

1549
01:02:43,540 --> 01:02:41,390
most of the damage you're going onto

1550
01:02:45,850 --> 01:02:43,550
someone's property sure

1551
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:45,860
I assume without their permission yes

1552
01:02:49,390 --> 01:02:48,170
and you're making a crop circle now

1553
01:02:51,070 --> 01:02:49,400
obviously this is gained

1554
01:02:54,580 --> 01:02:51,080
something that will pursue in the next

1555
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:54,590
segment and that is it's not legal if

1556
01:03:00,280 --> 01:02:57,650
you get caught you can be arrested right

1557
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:00,290
and that happened to you once get yeah

1558
01:03:05,830 --> 01:03:03,530
yeah I did I got I got arrested and

1559
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:05,840
prosecuted I'm as far as I'm aware the

1560
01:03:11,580 --> 01:03:07,730
only person who's ever been prosecuted

1561
01:03:13,870 --> 01:03:11,590
for the act of making a crop circle so

1562
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:13,880
yeah that's that's the one I'll carry

1563
01:03:19,930 --> 01:03:16,970
with me the same but a good one yeah it

1564
01:03:21,780 --> 01:03:19,940
came out of trying to help people to

1565
01:03:24,940 --> 01:03:21,790
understand where this is coming from and

1566
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:24,950
you know without I'd ordered sort of

1567
01:03:28,150 --> 01:03:26,690
decry the crop circle subject and I've

1568
01:03:29,500 --> 01:03:28,160
got to tell people you know if you hold

1569
01:03:31,830 --> 01:03:29,510
on we'll talk about some of the

1570
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:31,840
weirdness that is associated with

1571
01:03:36,460 --> 01:03:34,490
manmade crop circles and we do that in

1572
01:03:38,710 --> 01:03:36,470
our next section but I want to find out

1573
01:03:40,390 --> 01:03:38,720
more about when you were busted for

1574
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:40,400
making a crop circle we have Matthew

1575
01:03:49,750 --> 01:03:42,290
Williams joining gene and Chris you're

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para cast com its crop circles all the

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time on the para cast this week with

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Matthew Williams a UFO investigator who

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has made his own and you have one claim

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to fame being the only person or at

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least the first person to be busted for

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it how did this happen where did it

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01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:31,010
happen give us the raw details well how

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01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:33,890
I came to be known as a circle maker I

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was kind of exposed by a friend who

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pillow talk basically started all this

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off this is slightly back from the

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arrest but one of the circle makers on

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our team was skipping forward here now

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01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:50,000
I'd been making circles for many years

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01:08:54,910 --> 01:08:53,210
and come to the conclusion that we were

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01:08:57,099 --> 01:08:54,920
actually doing something that was full

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01:08:59,680 --> 01:08:57,109
of a paranormal factor but we'll come

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01:09:02,290 --> 01:08:59,690
back to that this excited my team

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01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:02,300
members and myself we were fully in the

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01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:03,770
swing of you know thinking that we were

1695
01:09:08,170 --> 01:09:06,290
taking part in a magical thing that we

1696
01:09:10,540 --> 01:09:08,180
were getting inspiration to do these

1697
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:10,550
designs from somewhere else we'll come

1698
01:09:16,390 --> 01:09:13,970
back to that but we did tell our new

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01:09:18,099 --> 01:09:16,400
team member that it was probably not a

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01:09:20,410 --> 01:09:18,109
good idea that he could bragging about

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01:09:21,730 --> 01:09:20,420
this because if he started bragging

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01:09:22,599 --> 01:09:21,740
about it to other people that they

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01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:22,609
probably were

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keep it secret and that that could get

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us into trouble

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01:09:32,829 --> 01:09:28,940
so he didn't do that he told his

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girlfriend and she went and told some

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01:09:36,729 --> 01:09:34,400
other people and they went and told some

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01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:36,739
other people and then that's how I got

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01:09:41,620 --> 01:09:39,650
exposed as being a circle maker

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01:09:43,180 --> 01:09:41,630
so our group of friends that we hung

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01:09:45,309 --> 01:09:43,190
around with in Wiltshire knew that I was

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01:09:47,379 --> 01:09:45,319
making circles but the researchers

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01:09:49,629 --> 01:09:47,389
didn't it was still kind of kept as a

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01:09:52,990 --> 01:09:49,639
bit of a secret in the background but I

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01:09:54,340 --> 01:09:53,000
felt that I have to justify why I was

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01:09:57,070 --> 01:09:54,350
doing this because the story was

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01:09:58,450 --> 01:09:57,080
starting to get out why was I doing this

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01:10:00,129 --> 01:09:58,460
you know I was supposed to be a UFO

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01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:00,139
researcher and why was I involved in

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01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:01,730
something that could really kind of

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01:10:07,060 --> 01:10:04,010
damage your credibility in your name

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01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:07,070
Envy in doing research and I had to tell

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people the reason I was still doing this

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01:10:13,149 --> 01:10:11,210
and making crop circles on a regular

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01:10:15,850 --> 01:10:13,159
basis was because I did believe in

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something bigger going on and I was

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01:10:20,350 --> 01:10:17,840
doing this as part of an experiment it

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01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:20,360
had started off as just you know can we

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01:10:24,340 --> 01:10:22,130
do it will people believe that our

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01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:24,350
circles that we can create are any good

1732
01:10:29,950 --> 01:10:26,690
you know like the real thing quote in

1733
01:10:32,109 --> 01:10:29,960
quotes but then it developed into I

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01:10:34,899 --> 01:10:32,119
needed to justify why I was doing it

1735
01:10:37,419 --> 01:10:34,909
when this came out so I started to

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01:10:40,660 --> 01:10:37,429
approach various crop circle researchers

1737
01:10:42,990 --> 01:10:40,670
one by one systematically I was trying

1738
01:10:45,010 --> 01:10:43,000
to make contact with him Colin Andrews

1739
01:10:47,709 --> 01:10:45,020
busty Taylor

1740
01:10:51,609 --> 01:10:47,719
Francine Blake Charles Charles mallet

1741
01:10:53,649 --> 01:10:51,619
there was Michael Glickman I went to

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their houses and knocked on the doors

1743
01:10:58,629 --> 01:10:55,159
and and said would you like to sort of

1744
01:11:01,930 --> 01:10:58,639
sit down and have a chat and mostly I've

1745
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:01,940
got to say probably about 98% of the

1746
01:11:07,149 --> 01:11:04,730
people I approached all said basically

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do not come and speak to me get away

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01:11:11,229 --> 01:11:09,380
from me I don't want to have anything to

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01:11:12,700 --> 01:11:11,239
do with you and I kind of thought well

1750
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:12,710
that's a bit strange you know that they

1751
01:11:15,430 --> 01:11:14,090
are supposed to be researchers but they

1752
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:15,440
don't want to actually sit down and have

1753
01:11:19,359 --> 01:11:17,810
a chat about this I had my nose put out

1754
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:19,369
a joint to be perfectly honest by the

1755
01:11:23,620 --> 01:11:21,290
fact that they didn't want to speak so

1756
01:11:26,109 --> 01:11:23,630
the only one that that did want to speak

1757
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:26,119
and was actually gentlemanly was Colin

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01:11:29,260 --> 01:11:26,570
Andrews

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01:11:31,300 --> 01:11:29,270
and this is why I would say to people

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I've got a lot of time for Colin because

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01:11:35,500 --> 01:11:33,500
he would actually talk about this now to

1762
01:11:36,250 --> 01:11:35,510
give us a time frame here when are we

1763
01:11:39,790 --> 01:11:36,260
talking

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01:11:43,930 --> 01:11:39,800
researchers would have been just before

1765
01:11:47,710 --> 01:11:43,940
2000 because I was arrested in 1999 yeah

1766
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:47,720
yep way down the line so I came out I

1767
01:11:51,670 --> 01:11:50,210
came along to Michael Glickman and asked

1768
01:11:53,650 --> 01:11:51,680
him would he like to sit and chat he

1769
01:11:56,350 --> 01:11:53,660
basically said get out of my get out of

1770
01:11:58,540 --> 01:11:56,360
my premises don't ever contact me again

1771
01:12:00,520 --> 01:11:58,550
and this other stuff and I kind of went

1772
01:12:03,310 --> 01:12:00,530
away thinking well you know this guy's

1773
01:12:06,070 --> 01:12:03,320
was to be a researcher I can't get my

1774
01:12:08,020 --> 01:12:06,080
head around how people will not talk why

1775
01:12:09,700 --> 01:12:08,030
the debate has been shut down so I

1776
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:09,710
thought well if he's not prepared to

1777
01:12:12,820 --> 01:12:11,210
accept the people making these crop

1778
01:12:14,410 --> 01:12:12,830
circles and I'm trying to help him here

1779
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:14,420
I would have even offered him the

1780
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:16,370
opportunity to come out into a field and

1781
01:12:20,770 --> 01:12:18,650
watch us making a crop circle at night

1782
01:12:23,140 --> 01:12:20,780
so that he could get it clear in his

1783
01:12:25,300 --> 01:12:23,150
head that we were capable of doing this

1784
01:12:26,950 --> 01:12:25,310
but he didn't want to know so I went

1785
01:12:29,229 --> 01:12:26,960
away and thought well how can i how can

1786
01:12:31,090 --> 01:12:29,239
I kind of get through to him that we are

1787
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:31,100
doing this and I thought well one way

1788
01:12:35,650 --> 01:12:32,930
would be to create a crop circle that

1789
01:12:38,740 --> 01:12:35,660
contains some specific elements that he

1790
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:38,750
is expecting cannot be done by humans

1791
01:12:43,900 --> 01:12:41,090
that he's claimed are impossible for

1792
01:12:46,330 --> 01:12:43,910
people to recreate and then if we put

1793
01:12:48,970 --> 01:12:46,340
those into this crop circle stand back

1794
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:48,980
and watch and wait he'll probably you

1795
01:12:52,990 --> 01:12:51,290
know come out and say that he thinks

1796
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:53,000
this is an amazing crop circle that it

1797
01:12:58,810 --> 01:12:55,250
you know it's genuinely paranormal and

1798
01:13:00,550 --> 01:12:58,820
then we can reveal to him that we

1799
01:13:03,460 --> 01:13:00,560
actually made it and it might help him

1800
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:03,470
to understand so this is what I did

1801
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:05,930
I approached an American researcher

1802
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:07,010
you're probably very familiar with

1803
01:13:12,430 --> 01:13:09,850
called whitley strieber whitley strieber

1804
01:13:14,440 --> 01:13:12,440
does a radio show where michael Glickman

1805
01:13:17,530 --> 01:13:14,450
appears like i'm doing with yourselves

1806
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:17,540
now as a guest but quickly is not very

1807
01:13:21,700 --> 01:13:19,489
critical of Michael he doesn't research

1808
01:13:23,260 --> 01:13:21,710
and check out what he says he just kind

1809
01:13:25,150 --> 01:13:23,270
of has him on the show and just lets him

1810
01:13:27,190 --> 01:13:25,160
say what he wants to say well I

1811
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:27,200
basically wanted Mike

1812
01:13:32,350 --> 01:13:29,690
Michael's sort of research to be checked

1813
01:13:34,090 --> 01:13:32,360
by Whitley I wanted to go and look at

1814
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:34,100
what he was doing so I thought well I'll

1815
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:35,690
approach him offer him the opportunity

1816
01:13:41,020 --> 01:13:38,210
of being the the judge then in this or

1817
01:13:43,150 --> 01:13:41,030
the the independent third party in this

1818
01:13:44,620 --> 01:13:43,160
that I will give the details of the

1819
01:13:48,130 --> 01:13:44,630
circle I'm gonna do two Whitley Strieber

1820
01:13:49,900 --> 01:13:48,140
and he will sit on this and then I will

1821
01:13:50,470 --> 01:13:49,910
make the circle so Whitley agreed to

1822
01:13:51,729 --> 01:13:50,480
this

1823
01:13:54,250 --> 01:13:51,739
he said that he would keep it perfectly

1824
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:54,260
secret I went out and made a circle the

1825
01:13:57,310 --> 01:13:56,810
very night and made the circle Whitley

1826
01:13:59,620 --> 01:13:57,320
Strieber

1827
01:14:01,690 --> 01:13:59,630
phoned Michael Glickman and told him

1828
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:01,700
watch out Michael they're making a

1829
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:03,650
circle they're trying to catch you out

1830
01:14:09,190 --> 01:14:07,489
don't be fooled by it and then Michael

1831
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:09,200
Glickman armed with this knowledge

1832
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:12,170
contacted the Wiltshire police the next

1833
01:14:20,860 --> 01:14:14,810
day I had 16 police officers turned up

1834
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:20,870
at my house so we boil it down the

1835
01:14:27,010 --> 01:14:24,130
Whitley opening his mouth okay yeah yeah

1836
01:14:30,010 --> 01:14:27,020
I think some of our listeners know this

1837
01:14:31,810 --> 01:14:30,020
we for some reason don't get along with

1838
01:14:33,220 --> 01:14:31,820
Whitley cerebral and there's a lot of

1839
01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:33,230
story about that way and don't want to

1840
01:14:37,900 --> 01:14:35,450
dominate the time for Matthew to tell

1841
01:14:39,790 --> 01:14:37,910
his tale we've invited him on the power

1842
01:14:42,430 --> 01:14:39,800
cast several times a couple of times

1843
01:14:44,440 --> 01:14:42,440
he's actually agreed to come and then at

1844
01:14:46,690 --> 01:14:44,450
the last minute he says no now he

1845
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:46,700
doesn't like the fact that some of our

1846
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:48,650
listeners figure he's chicken for not

1847
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:50,690
coming on but you know I met him a few

1848
01:14:56,110 --> 01:14:53,330
times in the past and I don't have a

1849
01:14:58,840 --> 01:14:56,120
final conclusion about what he does or

1850
01:15:01,630 --> 01:14:58,850
his claims but I am concerned over what

1851
01:15:04,270 --> 01:15:01,640
he did to you so tell us more sixteen

1852
01:15:06,700 --> 01:15:04,280
policemen come up now yeah in the UK

1853
01:15:08,620 --> 01:15:06,710
they don't have guns do they they didn't

1854
01:15:12,700 --> 01:15:08,630
come there with their weapons you know

1855
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:12,710
those tanks or automatic weapons or blue

1856
01:15:19,060 --> 01:15:16,730
vest yeah I mean they do have guns in

1857
01:15:21,729 --> 01:15:19,070
fact Wiltshire is it's one of the police

1858
01:15:23,140 --> 01:15:21,739
forces that has the most armed force

1859
01:15:25,780 --> 01:15:23,150
police in the UK

1860
01:15:27,460 --> 01:15:25,790
apart from London there's a reason for

1861
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:27,470
that is because Wiltshire is a place

1862
01:15:31,390 --> 01:15:28,730
where you have a lot of very rich people

1863
01:15:34,270 --> 01:15:31,400
with mansions and they have to be

1864
01:15:35,830 --> 01:15:34,280
protected so these guys around a lot of

1865
01:15:38,410 --> 01:15:35,840
the murex services they've gone into the

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police did they have weapons on that

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occasion possibly not but I have

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encountered the police regarding crop

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circles on other occasions and they

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definitely were armed but I won't go

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into that now so yeah when it comes to

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me

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police is as a dangerous nasty criminal

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type the police will come

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just on this occasion 16 police officers

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came to the house

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was basically dressed in my you know

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was like are you Matthew Williams yes do

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you know anything about making a crop

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[Music]

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01:21:01,610 --> 01:20:59,480
hi my name is Richard Dolan you're

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01:21:09,020 --> 01:21:01,620
listening to the Peres Cass

1987
01:21:13,260 --> 01:21:10,560
here we go

1988
01:21:15,990 --> 01:21:13,270
the shunned arms are at the front door

1989
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:16,000
of the bubbies yeah we use on bicycles

1990
01:21:22,140 --> 01:21:18,130
two-by-two I just remember that song

1991
01:21:24,870 --> 01:21:22,150
from Roger Miller okay Matthew Williams

1992
01:21:26,700 --> 01:21:24,880
tell us more they asked if you're the

1993
01:21:30,060 --> 01:21:26,710
guy who made the crop circle and you

1994
01:21:31,740 --> 01:21:30,070
said I said yes it was me because I

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01:21:33,510 --> 01:21:31,750
thought well there's no point in denying

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01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:33,520
it because Whitley Strieber has the

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proof because I sent him the designs and

1998
01:21:40,980 --> 01:21:37,450
I thought to myself I can't believe

1999
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:40,990
these people why they can't just do what

2000
01:21:45,480 --> 01:21:42,730
they say they're gonna do you know and

2001
01:21:47,820 --> 01:21:45,490
and stick to stick to the plan and I

2002
01:21:50,220 --> 01:21:47,830
thought no I'm not going to let them you

2003
01:21:53,430 --> 01:21:50,230
know sort of get away with pushing me

2004
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:53,440
back on on this that I know that we're

2005
01:21:57,420 --> 01:21:54,850
making crop circles and I thought well

2006
01:22:00,120 --> 01:21:57,430
no damn them that I'm using sort of

2007
01:22:02,670 --> 01:22:00,130
polite words there but damn them I am

2008
01:22:04,860 --> 01:22:02,680
going to admit to this and we will see

2009
01:22:06,420 --> 01:22:04,870
where this goes and that's what I did

2010
01:22:08,580 --> 01:22:06,430
I literally just gritted my teeth and I

2011
01:22:10,260 --> 01:22:08,590
said yes it is me I did it yeah

2012
01:22:12,090 --> 01:22:10,270
and they said right okay then well in

2013
01:22:15,030 --> 01:22:12,100
that case I have to warn you that you

2014
01:22:16,950 --> 01:22:15,040
are now under arrest for bla bla bla bla

2015
01:22:20,910 --> 01:22:16,960
bla and the police officers entered the

2016
01:22:22,020 --> 01:22:20,920
house and turned the whole house over it

2017
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:22,030
took a long time for me to get my

2018
01:22:26,250 --> 01:22:24,610
computer back several months and it was

2019
01:22:29,310 --> 01:22:26,260
smashed by the police but you know

2020
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:29,320
little things like that annoyances but I

2021
01:22:33,420 --> 01:22:31,210
just kind of wondered at that point you

2022
01:22:35,610 --> 01:22:33,430
know oh god what the hell of what what

2023
01:22:37,590 --> 01:22:35,620
was I am all involved in with this you

2024
01:22:39,630 --> 01:22:37,600
know doing this crop circle stuff was it

2025
01:22:41,250 --> 01:22:39,640
really worth carrying on from that point

2026
01:22:41,940 --> 01:22:41,260
but you know we still haven't got to the

2027
01:22:43,110 --> 01:22:41,950
good stuff

2028
01:22:44,460 --> 01:22:43,120
we'll have to reverse and go to the

2029
01:22:46,610 --> 01:22:44,470
paranormal stuff because that's where

2030
01:22:49,350 --> 01:22:46,620
why I got involved to that point but

2031
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:49,360
yeah making crop circles got arrested

2032
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:51,730
but I decided then I was going to tell

2033
01:22:57,090 --> 01:22:54,130
the story the real story of how it

2034
01:22:58,830 --> 01:22:57,100
actually came to pass okay did they find

2035
01:23:01,350 --> 01:22:58,840
you that they put you in prison why they

2036
01:23:03,060 --> 01:23:01,360
do yeah because I admitted to it it was

2037
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all dealt with very quickly and it was

2038
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able to go to court without having a

2039
01:23:10,140 --> 01:23:08,500
case and a trial set so I went before

2040
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the local magistrates which is like a

2041
01:23:14,850 --> 01:23:13,060
low-level court and the local magistrate

2042
01:23:17,700 --> 01:23:14,860
he seemed to think it was kind of funny

2043
01:23:20,700 --> 01:23:17,710
that this had come before him and he was

2044
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also quite annoyed you could tell that

2045
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the

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magistrate thought that this was a

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triviality and that maybe it shouldn't

2048
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have really you know come to him for

2049
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this and charged with destruction of

2050
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public property trespassing what in the

2051
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UK it's called criminal damage you know

2052
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you've done something to somebody else's

2053
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property without permission it's caused

2054
01:23:44,970 --> 01:23:41,980
a caused a monetary value loss and you

2055
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:44,980
did it without permission so I was find

2056
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the massive sum of 125 pounds which is

2057
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pretty much next to nothing when you

2058
01:23:57,419 --> 01:23:54,010
think about it it's what about $200 u.s.

2059
01:24:00,090 --> 01:23:57,429
something like $200 yeah yeah yeah yeah

2060
01:24:01,979 --> 01:24:00,100
you're a marked man I actually admitted

2061
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in in that you know when I was there I

2062
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thought well if I'm gonna be remembered

2063
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:06,460
for what I did here this is if this is

2064
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as far as it goes if this is like the

2065
01:24:12,090 --> 01:24:09,880
end of Matthew Williams and crop circles

2066
01:24:14,070 --> 01:24:12,100
I want to be remembered for one circle

2067
01:24:15,450 --> 01:24:14,080
that I did do which is one of many

2068
01:24:16,350 --> 01:24:15,460
circles I didn't want to admit to them

2069
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:16,360
all because it would have probably

2070
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driven of the fine figure up but I

2071
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thought I want to be remembered for one

2072
01:24:24,750 --> 01:24:22,540
and I admitted to it in the court and

2073
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provided evidence of that and it was one

2074
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:27,580
that I believe gene you actually like it

2075
01:24:34,860 --> 01:24:32,050
was the basket weave of 2000 you did the

2076
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:34,870
magic basket I did the magic basket yes

2077
01:24:40,620 --> 01:24:36,610
I was thinking for a second maybe he's

2078
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implying I am a basket case you know

2079
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:42,550
well we already know that I just I'm

2080
01:24:46,979 --> 01:24:45,010
astounded that you did the magic basket

2081
01:24:50,790 --> 01:24:46,989
how did you do that I I heard it was

2082
01:24:53,490 --> 01:24:50,800
woven it was woven but it's not kind of

2083
01:24:56,580 --> 01:24:53,500
woven on the level of individual plants

2084
01:24:58,439 --> 01:24:56,590
I've been sort of put up and underneath

2085
01:25:01,320 --> 01:24:58,449
each other there's a slight technique

2086
01:25:04,350 --> 01:25:01,330
which makes it look like it's woven but

2087
01:25:06,660 --> 01:25:04,360
in fact it's it's literally you go up a

2088
01:25:09,090 --> 01:25:06,670
line of filling you cross across you

2089
01:25:10,830 --> 01:25:09,100
miss a bit and you come down then you go

2090
01:25:12,629 --> 01:25:10,840
across and you miss a bit then you go up

2091
01:25:14,250 --> 01:25:12,639
and then you've got pieces which you're

2092
01:25:16,919 --> 01:25:14,260
left behind and then whatever's left

2093
01:25:18,870 --> 01:25:16,929
behind you go left to right left to

2094
01:25:21,780 --> 01:25:18,880
right left to right and fill those bits

2095
01:25:25,470 --> 01:25:21,790
in and you know it looks from above like

2096
01:25:27,660 --> 01:25:25,480
as if it's been woven and in effect some

2097
01:25:29,879 --> 01:25:27,670
bits are under and some bits are over

2098
01:25:30,510 --> 01:25:29,889
but they're not over and under and over

2099
01:25:32,250 --> 01:25:30,520
and under

2100
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:32,260
there's just bits that lay on top of

2101
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other bits and it kind of gives the

2102
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effect of a basket but you know if

2103
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people want to think it's been perfectly

2104
01:25:40,650 --> 01:25:38,650
woven then they're quite you know within

2105
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their rights to think that but it looks

2106
01:25:44,250 --> 01:25:42,730
good from the air well it's not quite as

2107
01:25:46,440 --> 01:25:44,260
technically challenging as you might

2108
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:46,450
think well evidently the farmer was

2109
01:25:51,330 --> 01:25:48,370
pretty freaked out because I think he

2110
01:25:54,450 --> 01:25:51,340
that very morning early in the morning

2111
01:25:57,150 --> 01:25:54,460
if I remember he he got got out and and

2112
01:25:58,740 --> 01:25:57,160
and and just knocked it all down yeah he

2113
01:26:00,720 --> 01:25:58,750
was he thought it was the work of the

2114
01:26:03,420 --> 01:26:00,730
devil you know he's an elderly sort of

2115
01:26:06,020 --> 01:26:03,430
farmer and he must be sort of like a

2116
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:06,030
Christian or you know church-going man

2117
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:08,650
and he thought that the devil had come

2118
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:11,290
and done is mowing devil as a were you

2119
01:26:17,460 --> 01:26:13,810
know in his field and the reason he cut

2120
01:26:19,470 --> 01:26:17,470
it wasn't so much to spite the circle or

2121
01:26:22,020 --> 01:26:19,480
it was to stop people going into this

2122
01:26:23,700 --> 01:26:22,030
yeah a devil he wanted to stop people

2123
01:26:26,730 --> 01:26:23,710
actually being you know sort of

2124
01:26:28,410 --> 01:26:26,740
influenced by satanic dark forces did it

2125
01:26:30,570 --> 01:26:28,420
come out in the trial that that

2126
01:26:32,430 --> 01:26:30,580
particular formation was the one that

2127
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:32,440
you were you were actually being charged

2128
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:35,290
for committing criminal mischief colonel

2129
01:26:39,300 --> 01:26:37,210
damage I just said to them you know if

2130
01:26:41,250 --> 01:26:39,310
I'm you know whilst I'm here I'd like to

2131
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admit to one other offense you know and

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and I gave them the evidence and they

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did indeed they didn't even to the

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question it didn't it add anymore to the

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fine I think the magistrate was kind of

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01:26:52,440 --> 01:26:49,780
like let's just quickly deal with this

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01:26:54,090 --> 01:26:52,450
and off you go sort of thing was a crop

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circle community were they aware of the

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fact that you were actually you pled

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guilty to making that particular

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01:27:02,610 --> 01:27:00,790
formation well that's and many of the

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formations the crop circle community are

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well aware of a lot more than you would

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think I have admitted to making most of

2145
01:27:14,550 --> 01:27:11,500
my formations now because several years

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having passed their tents there's a kind

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of like a law in the UK for sort of

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menial offenses if you haven't really

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been caught within a second limitations

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they get picked charges up on you that's

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the one yeah question for you before we

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get into the paranormal stuff which I'm

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01:27:34,140 --> 01:27:31,000
very very interested in I must say how

2154
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do you know John Lundgren team Satan

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yourself others who have been out for

2156
01:27:41,070 --> 01:27:38,710
years allegedly fabricating these

2157
01:27:43,820 --> 01:27:41,080
circles how do you prove that you've

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done it you like put the design into a

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sealed envelope and send it to

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yourselves with a with a

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01:27:51,250 --> 01:27:49,610
stayed on it do you contact people is

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there some sort of registry that you

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guys have that we can go back to now in

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01:27:59,080 --> 01:27:57,230
hindsight and look and see verification

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01:28:00,730 --> 01:27:59,090
that you guys predicted these particular

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01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:00,740
circles and then lo and behold there

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01:28:06,270 --> 01:28:03,770
they're presented to the public how have

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01:28:09,550 --> 01:28:06,280
you documented it's a hard one because

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you know proof will be for one person

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01:28:14,380 --> 01:28:11,840
very different to another person I mean

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I tended to just tell people what I've

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done I mean a lot of people say well

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01:28:19,180 --> 01:28:17,630
that's no good that's not proof you

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01:28:22,690 --> 01:28:19,190
can't prove you know that you made these

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01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:22,700
by saying it but you know the sort of

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01:28:26,050 --> 01:28:24,290
levels of proof that a lot of people

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want you just have put documents in the

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post you've got to bear in mind that you

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know circlemakers will often meet in the

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in the pub in the afternoon or the

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01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:35,240
evening they'll finalize the designs and

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01:28:39,910 --> 01:28:37,730
then they go out and make it as to

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whether or not it gets made exactly as

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01:28:44,140 --> 01:28:42,020
it was on paper or you know it gets

2185
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:44,150
messed up and they've changed the design

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01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:46,970
on the fly and doesn't it doesn't end up

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01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:48,890
being the circle that you went out to

2188
01:28:51,940 --> 01:28:50,090
make it ends up being something

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01:28:53,770 --> 01:28:51,950
different so you get all those sorts of

2190
01:28:55,810 --> 01:28:53,780
problems then there's the the sort of

2191
01:28:57,490 --> 01:28:55,820
proof requirement some people say well

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01:28:59,620 --> 01:28:57,500
why don't you take out video cameras we

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01:29:01,540 --> 01:28:59,630
have we have taken out video cameras

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01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:01,550
with us night-vision cameras but these

2195
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things are invariably very hard to set

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up yeah you can't film at night showing

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01:29:14,020 --> 01:29:11,570
an actual design over the size of

2198
01:29:15,790 --> 01:29:14,030
acreage that you're covering it's

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impossible not even with a night shot

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even on top of a pole I mean night shot

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01:29:22,060 --> 01:29:21,080
on a camera you've probably experimented

2202
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with these things yourself you can get

2203
01:29:26,170 --> 01:29:23,930
about you know 20-30 feet with an

2204
01:29:29,350 --> 01:29:26,180
average camera if you buy an infrared

2205
01:29:30,700 --> 01:29:29,360
illuminator to supplement a bit of extra

2206
01:29:33,070 --> 01:29:30,710
light you might get out job at a hundred

2207
01:29:35,470 --> 01:29:33,080
feet but it starts to get fuzzy at a

2208
01:29:37,420 --> 01:29:35,480
hundred feet and even then you know

2209
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:37,430
you're going to be filming on a tripod

2210
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:40,250
probably this tripod is going to be

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about six foot high the crop is about

2212
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three to five foot high you know in some

2213
01:29:49,750 --> 01:29:47,510
cases and you're not really gonna see a

2214
01:29:51,730 --> 01:29:49,760
great vantage over the crop circle so

2215
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unless you've got some so you want to

2216
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take a crane out into the field at night

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so you've got a totally you can't pull

2218
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that off and get away with it yeah and I

2219
01:30:01,310 --> 01:30:00,050
mean you could go up on the distant

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hills and

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01:30:05,149 --> 01:30:03,090
film but then you need image intensifier

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equipment and image intensifiers

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at a distance that it tends to be grainy

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specular footage I have uploaded some of

2225
01:30:16,370 --> 01:30:12,869
this on to my channel on the internet

2226
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but right now we've done a good job here

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of laying the groundwork forgive the pun

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moon crop circles

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is there anything paranormal about or

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just a bunch of artists having a good

2231
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time at maybe a farmers expense we're

2232
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going to hold that question to our next

2233
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segment with Matthew Williams joining

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are tuned into the para cast let me tell

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you what you're gonna hear stuff here

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else hear that George snoring on the

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power cast with Gene and Kris we have

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the crop circle maker himself Matthew

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Williams now we've kind of given up then

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on et doing this but why would anyone

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think that there's a paranormal aspect

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the crop circles Matthew Williams

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explain well it's kind of funny going

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back to Doug and Dave if you think that

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they kind of were influenced by seeing a

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design of the the Tully crops while

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Tully saucer nest that's what started

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Doug's interest and he did a design in

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the fields to kind of see how people

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would react and then they thought it was

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extraterrestrial or weird Gaia forces

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spirits whatever these researchers

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believed that these things were they

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took it on and they these researchers

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expanded and developed these ideas in

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people's minds and the circle makers

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came along and just kept on supplying

2371
01:36:00,220 --> 01:35:58,460
more and more of what these researchers

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were talking about and where their

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interests were lying so you know it kind

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of like one thing follows on from

2375
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:05,960
another suddenly you've got a load of

2376
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people coming to do research like myself

2377
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:10,670
skywatching looking at the crop circles

2378
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and they're looking for certain types of

2379
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things when you're looking for something

2380
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sometimes you find it a lot of the time

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I think people will find what they want

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to find they will see what they want to

2383
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see in the crop circles if you're in an

2384
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area like Wiltshire it's got very good

2385
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sky at night because it's not like

2386
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polluted like you get you know run some

2387
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of the cities so it's a great area to

2388
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sky watch and you've got all these teams

2389
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of people now doing sky

2390
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watches on the hills because of the crop

2391
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circles because these things are found

2392
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in the fields and they're seeing UFOs at

2393
01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:47,489
night they're seeing strange things that

2394
01:36:52,490 --> 01:36:50,250
they don't understand albeit we do have

2395
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:52,500
the Salisbury Plain which is a training

2396
01:36:57,229 --> 01:36:54,890
area a military training area nearby and

2397
01:37:00,410 --> 01:36:57,239
sometimes you know you get strange

2398
01:37:03,169 --> 01:37:00,420
flares missiles being fired tanks firing

2399
01:37:04,729 --> 01:37:03,179
explosions and these things may confuse

2400
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:04,739
some people not everybody but you know

2401
01:37:09,140 --> 01:37:06,210
some people get it a little bit excited

2402
01:37:11,150 --> 01:37:09,150
by these things and it creates a sort of

2403
01:37:14,900 --> 01:37:11,160
what's the word it's kind of like a

2404
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:14,910
hysteria hysteria about the whole thing

2405
01:37:18,350 --> 01:37:16,530
some of which is justified you know

2406
01:37:20,780 --> 01:37:18,360
people have had strange real strange

2407
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:20,790
sightings and some of it is kind of like

2408
01:37:26,260 --> 01:37:22,770
self-generated is kind of like mass

2409
01:37:30,919 --> 01:37:26,270
hysteria but these crop circles have

2410
01:37:32,630 --> 01:37:30,929
definitely attracted strange things I am

2411
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:32,640
sure of this because I've been out and I

2412
01:37:37,010 --> 01:37:34,650
mean I'm I'm a sky watcher I'd like to

2413
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:37,020
think I'm fairly level-headed in what I

2414
01:37:42,380 --> 01:37:39,810
say I've seen and I like to you know

2415
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:42,390
sort of have multiple witness sightings

2416
01:37:46,130 --> 01:37:44,130
where we're we're all seeing the same

2417
01:37:47,689 --> 01:37:46,140
thing and we haven't colluded on you

2418
01:37:51,260 --> 01:37:47,699
know the details were kind of like

2419
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:51,270
coming back to see things and it's

2420
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:52,530
speaking to people and saying you know

2421
01:37:55,490 --> 01:37:54,090
what did you see last night and they say

2422
01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:55,500
well we saw a strange light in this

2423
01:37:59,330 --> 01:37:57,330
position and we'll say oh well we were

2424
01:38:01,189 --> 01:37:59,340
at this position we saw that light to

2425
01:38:03,169 --> 01:38:01,199
multiple witness sightings that's what I

2426
01:38:05,900 --> 01:38:03,179
like and there's certainly a lot of that

2427
01:38:08,510 --> 01:38:05,910
around crop circles but the point being

2428
01:38:10,820 --> 01:38:08,520
is that you've got two very different

2429
01:38:12,740 --> 01:38:10,830
perspectives on this you've got people

2430
01:38:14,419 --> 01:38:12,750
who are making the crop circles seeing

2431
01:38:16,790 --> 01:38:14,429
things whilst they're out in the fields

2432
01:38:19,459 --> 01:38:16,800
making the crop circle and you've got

2433
01:38:21,260 --> 01:38:19,469
the people on the hillsides and in the

2434
01:38:23,660 --> 01:38:21,270
local vicinity who are having the

2435
01:38:26,300 --> 01:38:23,670
strange sightings and experiences and

2436
01:38:29,090 --> 01:38:26,310
they're not then prepared to accept that

2437
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:29,100
people had anything to do with that crop

2438
01:38:33,110 --> 01:38:30,810
circle because they marry the two

2439
01:38:36,110 --> 01:38:33,120
together and they say well a UFO was

2440
01:38:38,090 --> 01:38:36,120
seen above that area general area a crop

2441
01:38:41,270 --> 01:38:38,100
circle appears in the morning well it

2442
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:41,280
must be one and one is two UFO plus crop

2443
01:38:45,919 --> 01:38:43,770
circle equals UFO made crop circle you

2444
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:45,929
know and I like to say to people and I

2445
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:47,489
like to sort of you know bring it back

2446
01:38:50,870 --> 01:38:49,290
down to earth a little bit and say well

2447
01:38:53,030 --> 01:38:50,880
one on one doesn't always

2448
01:38:55,580 --> 01:38:53,040
me too you know you have to actually say

2449
01:38:58,490 --> 01:38:55,590
well maybe one is one over there and one

2450
01:39:00,350 --> 01:38:58,500
is one over here and you are the person

2451
01:39:03,500 --> 01:39:00,360
making the connection between the two

2452
01:39:06,169 --> 01:39:03,510
you know maybe the UFO was there it was

2453
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:06,179
seen by people but did it necessarily

2454
01:39:10,669 --> 01:39:08,730
make the crop circle if knowing that

2455
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:10,679
strange things are seen and in and

2456
01:39:14,060 --> 01:39:12,690
around crop circles and I've made enough

2457
01:39:16,820 --> 01:39:14,070
of them to know that we see balls of

2458
01:39:19,459 --> 01:39:16,830
light I've seen UFOs structured looking

2459
01:39:21,140 --> 01:39:19,469
craft in the area and sort of these

2460
01:39:23,330 --> 01:39:21,150
things have even been chased by military

2461
01:39:25,100 --> 01:39:23,340
helicopters and this stuff does go on

2462
01:39:27,919 --> 01:39:25,110
you know that there is this connection

2463
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:27,929
there you've also got people who are

2464
01:39:32,180 --> 01:39:30,210
predicting psychic people who are

2465
01:39:34,910 --> 01:39:32,190
predicting that a certain design is

2466
01:39:38,209 --> 01:39:34,920
going to appear and then people like

2467
01:39:39,979 --> 01:39:38,219
myself will get the urge to get up from

2468
01:39:42,470 --> 01:39:39,989
their seat you know and go out and make

2469
01:39:44,959 --> 01:39:42,480
a crop circle design which I would think

2470
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:44,969
is my own design you know I think to

2471
01:39:49,340 --> 01:39:46,290
myself while I'm gonna go out and make

2472
01:39:51,950 --> 01:39:49,350
that shape but somebody else's is out

2473
01:39:54,410 --> 01:39:51,960
there wanting this to appear or

2474
01:39:57,320 --> 01:39:54,420
predicting this is going to appear and a

2475
01:40:00,110 --> 01:39:57,330
circle making team or an individual will

2476
01:40:03,050 --> 01:40:00,120
go out and make that design now again

2477
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:03,060
that becomes very hard for you to talk

2478
01:40:07,430 --> 01:40:05,489
to those people and say well don't you

2479
01:40:10,100 --> 01:40:07,440
find it fascinating that you were

2480
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:10,110
predicting that and a circle maker has

2481
01:40:13,700 --> 01:40:11,489
gone out and done that and that's

2482
01:40:15,890 --> 01:40:13,710
happened on a number of occasions I give

2483
01:40:17,930 --> 01:40:15,900
you one classic example in other words

2484
01:40:19,550 --> 01:40:17,940
here let me just digress here for a

2485
01:40:21,500 --> 01:40:19,560
second in other words sure you're saying

2486
01:40:24,620 --> 01:40:21,510
a psychic will make a prediction about a

2487
01:40:26,209 --> 01:40:24,630
particular shape and then you will be

2488
01:40:28,010 --> 01:40:26,219
compelled to go out and make that shape

2489
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:28,020
not knowing about the psychics

2490
01:40:33,979 --> 01:40:30,810
prediction absolutely there's okay this

2491
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:33,989
has happened on many occasions one I was

2492
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:35,730
going to tell you about was at Avebury

2493
01:40:39,379 --> 01:40:38,370
and I know the people involved they

2494
01:40:41,390 --> 01:40:39,389
didn't know that I was going to go out

2495
01:40:43,340 --> 01:40:41,400
and make a crop circle I didn't know

2496
01:40:46,100 --> 01:40:43,350
that they were there in the field

2497
01:40:48,620 --> 01:40:46,110
actually doing a meditation and this was

2498
01:40:51,590 --> 01:40:48,630
near a stone circle called Avebury it's

2499
01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:51,600
like a large sort of larger stone circle

2500
01:40:55,939 --> 01:40:53,489
site to somewhere like Stonehenge that

2501
01:40:59,240 --> 01:40:55,949
people are probably more familiar with a

2502
01:41:01,490 --> 01:40:59,250
bigger site than Stonehenge basically

2503
01:41:03,860 --> 01:41:01,500
they were sitting on the edge of a field

2504
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:03,870
and they were meditating and they were

2505
01:41:07,790 --> 01:41:04,650
hoping

2506
01:41:09,620 --> 01:41:07,800
that a crop circle would appear and they

2507
01:41:12,470 --> 01:41:09,630
had a design that they were all

2508
01:41:15,710 --> 01:41:12,480
meditating on and I please tell me this

2509
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:15,720
wasn't Steven Greer no no this wasn't

2510
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:18,810
Steven Greer no name was actually Dan

2511
01:41:23,420 --> 01:41:21,930
Krishna she was involved in crop circle

2512
01:41:25,460 --> 01:41:23,430
research many years ago I haven't seen

2513
01:41:28,070 --> 01:41:25,470
her for a while but I approached her

2514
01:41:31,550 --> 01:41:28,080
after afterwards and said did you

2515
01:41:33,440 --> 01:41:31,560
realize that I made this design because

2516
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:33,450
I'd heard the story that people were

2517
01:41:37,150 --> 01:41:35,850
raving about they were saying oh my god

2518
01:41:39,590 --> 01:41:37,160
these people were there and they were

2519
01:41:42,470 --> 01:41:39,600
meditating on a six fold petal like a

2520
01:41:45,530 --> 01:41:42,480
six fold flower and I mean I was in my

2521
01:41:47,510 --> 01:41:45,540
house and I decided to get up and go out

2522
01:41:50,630 --> 01:41:47,520
and do this design on my own I didn't

2523
01:41:52,370 --> 01:41:50,640
have a team I used a tripod because I

2524
01:41:54,170 --> 01:41:52,380
needed somebody to hold the other end of

2525
01:41:55,940 --> 01:41:54,180
the tape that we use and I didn't have

2526
01:41:57,860 --> 01:41:55,950
that person so I had to make the design

2527
01:41:59,840 --> 01:41:57,870
small enough so that I could stretch

2528
01:42:01,580 --> 01:41:59,850
this tape out and not have the tripod

2529
01:42:04,430 --> 01:42:01,590
fall over because it was you know

2530
01:42:06,170 --> 01:42:04,440
obviously gonna sway with a distance of

2531
01:42:08,390 --> 01:42:06,180
the tape so I had to make it a small

2532
01:42:10,550 --> 01:42:08,400
design but I could hear these people and

2533
01:42:12,620 --> 01:42:10,560
it sounded to me like they were chatting

2534
01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:12,630
and playing guitar and I thought well I

2535
01:42:16,100 --> 01:42:14,130
better be careful you know that I don't

2536
01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:16,110
let them know I'm here so I quietly made

2537
01:42:20,300 --> 01:42:18,090
this circle probably only within about

2538
01:42:22,490 --> 01:42:20,310
300 feet I would say of where they were

2539
01:42:25,430 --> 01:42:22,500
so that's how close I managed to get to

2540
01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:25,440
them and made this design and then they

2541
01:42:29,420 --> 01:42:27,330
said wow you know that we were asking

2542
01:42:32,870 --> 01:42:29,430
for this in a meditation then it appears

2543
01:42:35,030 --> 01:42:32,880
and I revealed to Diane that it was me

2544
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:35,040
and she was fascinated this has happened

2545
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:37,050
on more than one occasion teams going

2546
01:42:42,470 --> 01:42:39,690
out even whole crop circle making teams

2547
01:42:45,470 --> 01:42:42,480
going out to the same field on the same

2548
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:45,480
night and putting down very similar

2549
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:48,330
designs close to each other without even

2550
01:42:53,390 --> 01:42:50,130
knowing the other team is present it's

2551
01:42:55,310 --> 01:42:53,400
almost all getting the same the same to

2552
01:42:58,010 --> 01:42:55,320
you the same thing at the same time at

2553
01:43:00,380 --> 01:42:58,020
the same time and one of the weirdest

2554
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:00,390
this blows my mind because I can't

2555
01:43:04,370 --> 01:43:02,610
explain this and that the teams involved

2556
01:43:06,350 --> 01:43:04,380
are all scratching their heads over this

2557
01:43:09,290 --> 01:43:06,360
as well is that there was a group

2558
01:43:12,410 --> 01:43:09,300
working in Wiltshire in North Wiltshire

2559
01:43:15,470 --> 01:43:12,420
and they were making it a spiral pattern

2560
01:43:16,910 --> 01:43:15,480
and this spiral goes from one spiral

2561
01:43:18,169 --> 01:43:16,920
into another so there's two spirals

2562
01:43:19,729 --> 01:43:18,179
side-by-side and once

2563
01:43:22,279 --> 01:43:19,739
spiral spirals out goes into the next

2564
01:43:24,259 --> 01:43:22,289
spiral spirals down okay so they made

2565
01:43:25,819 --> 01:43:24,269
this design and they were you know they

2566
01:43:28,429 --> 01:43:25,829
went away they were happy they finished

2567
01:43:30,859 --> 01:43:28,439
in the morning we get reports that there

2568
01:43:33,859 --> 01:43:30,869
is another design in South Wiltshire

2569
01:43:37,189 --> 01:43:33,869
that it's a similar design now this was

2570
01:43:38,779 --> 01:43:37,199
not happen to be on my birthday this was

2571
01:43:41,060 --> 01:43:38,789
on my birthday the date of my birthday

2572
01:43:42,469 --> 01:43:41,070
so I was like my god this is this has

2573
01:43:45,679 --> 01:43:42,479
happened again you know this is like

2574
01:43:47,359 --> 01:43:45,689
something is trying to shake the tree

2575
01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:47,369
here shake you and make you think you

2576
01:43:52,100 --> 01:43:50,489
know what is going on now I questioned

2577
01:43:54,589 --> 01:43:52,110
the circle making team and I said look

2578
01:43:56,449 --> 01:43:54,599
come on you guys you're taking the

2579
01:43:57,979 --> 01:43:56,459
Mickey here you're doing this aren't you

2580
01:43:59,509 --> 01:43:57,989
you know just sort of like because it's

2581
01:44:01,040 --> 01:43:59,519
my birthday and you're trying to sort

2582
01:44:02,419 --> 01:44:01,050
like give me a little present or

2583
01:44:04,100 --> 01:44:02,429
something aren't you and they said no no

2584
01:44:06,890 --> 01:44:04,110
we don't know who that the other team

2585
01:44:08,540 --> 01:44:06,900
was we've got no idea and we were amazed

2586
01:44:10,669 --> 01:44:08,550
to see that somebody else had done the

2587
01:44:12,379 --> 01:44:10,679
same design but in another part of world

2588
01:44:14,359 --> 01:44:12,389
sure we don't know who it is it's like

2589
01:44:16,189 --> 01:44:14,369
oh yeah I thought well that's that's

2590
01:44:18,229 --> 01:44:16,199
good you know they might be telling the

2591
01:44:20,029 --> 01:44:18,239
truth I think they probably are because

2592
01:44:21,199 --> 01:44:20,039
I believe that these things go on but

2593
01:44:23,330 --> 01:44:21,209
I'm thinking you know I'll get to the

2594
01:44:25,489 --> 01:44:23,340
bottom of it one day well I did because

2595
01:44:26,330 --> 01:44:25,499
many months later I was actually driving

2596
01:44:28,100 --> 01:44:26,340
in my car

2597
01:44:30,379 --> 01:44:28,110
I haven't revealed the full

2598
01:44:32,419 --> 01:44:30,389
circumstances to it but I'll reveal him

2599
01:44:34,819 --> 01:44:32,429
to you tonight I said I probably would

2600
01:44:38,060 --> 01:44:34,829
at some point but driving my car I saw

2601
01:44:39,709 --> 01:44:38,070
two guys who were paragliding they were

2602
01:44:41,929 --> 01:44:39,719
using a parachute and they were actually

2603
01:44:43,699 --> 01:44:41,939
flying cross-country with a parachute

2604
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:43,709
and I could see these guys were coming

2605
01:44:49,009 --> 01:44:47,130
down into a field and I knew where they

2606
01:44:51,350 --> 01:44:49,019
probably had taken off from because I'm

2607
01:44:53,330 --> 01:44:51,360
a pilot and I know where the airfields

2608
01:44:54,679 --> 01:44:53,340
and where people fly these things and I

2609
01:44:55,910 --> 01:44:54,689
thought well I'll offer them a lift

2610
01:44:57,620 --> 01:44:55,920
because they probably need to get back

2611
01:44:59,629 --> 01:44:57,630
to their base so I actually pulled up

2612
01:45:01,339 --> 01:44:59,639
this is miles and miles from anywhere

2613
01:45:02,959 --> 01:45:01,349
we're talking about 30 miles away so

2614
01:45:05,299 --> 01:45:02,969
it's well under the crop circle area and

2615
01:45:07,339 --> 01:45:05,309
I'd never met these people before I

2616
01:45:09,020 --> 01:45:07,349
offer them a lift they got in the car we

2617
01:45:10,489 --> 01:45:09,030
were driving I said what are you

2618
01:45:12,229 --> 01:45:10,499
interested in and they they were

2619
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:12,239
chatting and I said I'm interested in

2620
01:45:16,759 --> 01:45:13,650
crop circles I said oh that's funny

2621
01:45:18,500 --> 01:45:16,769
because we made our first one Matthew

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welcome back to the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

2672
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:03,040
here's Jean Steinberg the discussion

2673
01:48:07,350 --> 01:48:05,410
continues about the inspiration for crop

2674
01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:07,360
circles Matthew Williams joining Jean

2675
01:48:11,990 --> 01:48:09,250
and Chris go on please we were talking

2676
01:48:14,250 --> 01:48:12,000
about a design which appeared and the

2677
01:48:15,419 --> 01:48:14,260
upshot of it was that two designs

2678
01:48:17,550 --> 01:48:15,429
appeared on the same nights that

2679
01:48:20,970 --> 01:48:17,560
happened to be my birthday the teams

2680
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:20,980
denied all knowledge of you know the

2681
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:22,330
other team being there they didn't know

2682
01:48:26,580 --> 01:48:24,010
who the other team were and I thought

2683
01:48:28,470 --> 01:48:26,590
whatever no evidence no collusion no and

2684
01:48:30,959 --> 01:48:28,480
I wasn't sure whether to believe them

2685
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:30,969
but I think it was several months later

2686
01:48:36,390 --> 01:48:33,370
when I met these these people that were

2687
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:36,400
parasailing and gave them a lift we got

2688
01:48:40,229 --> 01:48:37,810
onto the subject of crop circles and

2689
01:48:41,850 --> 01:48:40,239
they told me well we made our first one

2690
01:48:44,250 --> 01:48:41,860
you know and I think they said it was

2691
01:48:46,410 --> 01:48:44,260
last year so this was a year later and

2692
01:48:47,729 --> 01:48:46,420
they said yeah we made our first crop

2693
01:48:49,740 --> 01:48:47,739
circle last year and I said which one

2694
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:49,750
was it they said oh it's a spiral I said

2695
01:48:53,939 --> 01:48:51,850
no way I said where was it they said

2696
01:48:56,580 --> 01:48:53,949
always this location I said absolutely

2697
01:48:58,560 --> 01:48:56,590
you you you made this and they said yeah

2698
01:48:59,880 --> 01:48:58,570
yeah and we'd never made one before and

2699
01:49:01,500 --> 01:48:59,890
I said well it's fascinating that

2700
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:01,510
somebody else had made one on the same

2701
01:49:05,459 --> 01:49:03,250
night and I said yeah we heard about

2702
01:49:07,229 --> 01:49:05,469
them we didn't know why did somebody

2703
01:49:09,450 --> 01:49:07,239
made the same design on the same night I

2704
01:49:12,060 --> 01:49:09,460
said well I think that's more than just

2705
01:49:14,130 --> 01:49:12,070
chance that that's happened that that's

2706
01:49:16,500 --> 01:49:14,140
weird but you've never made a crop

2707
01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:16,510
circle no do you know anybody who makes

2708
01:49:19,500 --> 01:49:18,250
crop circles no so you have got any

2709
01:49:22,290 --> 01:49:19,510
friends who put you up to this

2710
01:49:24,870 --> 01:49:22,300
no okay I said what was the inspiration

2711
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:24,880
for the spiral design then and strangely

2712
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:26,650
enough they had an inspiration which

2713
01:49:32,820 --> 01:49:28,690
made sense which was that when you're

2714
01:49:35,459 --> 01:49:32,830
soaring in a parasail you tend to use

2715
01:49:38,189 --> 01:49:35,469
the thermals to actually gain lift to

2716
01:49:40,290 --> 01:49:38,199
lift you up using the hot air and whilst

2717
01:49:42,180 --> 01:49:40,300
you're in a thermal you tend to either

2718
01:49:44,459 --> 01:49:42,190
go clockwise or anti-clockwise and you

2719
01:49:47,010 --> 01:49:44,469
spiral and spiral and spiral gaining

2720
01:49:50,010 --> 01:49:47,020
height so for them they go from one

2721
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:50,020
spiral clockwise to doing anti-clockwise

2722
01:49:55,020 --> 01:49:52,090
in the next viral so they put a

2723
01:49:57,300 --> 01:49:55,030
clockwise anti-clockwise spiral that was

2724
01:49:59,490 --> 01:49:57,310
their design they put it underneath the

2725
01:50:02,760 --> 01:49:59,500
airfield where they do their

2726
01:50:05,250 --> 01:50:02,770
parasailing for them that meant the type

2727
01:50:06,570 --> 01:50:05,260
of flying that they do whereas these

2728
01:50:08,190 --> 01:50:06,580
other guys who are working in North

2729
01:50:10,050 --> 01:50:08,200
Wiltshire had no connection with them at

2730
01:50:13,050 --> 01:50:10,060
all they did a spiral on the same night

2731
01:50:14,850 --> 01:50:13,060
why two spirals on the same night with

2732
01:50:17,550 --> 01:50:14,860
the teams not knowing each other to me

2733
01:50:19,580 --> 01:50:17,560
the designs are so much the same it

2734
01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:19,590
would be like winning the lottery and

2735
01:50:25,500 --> 01:50:21,730
circlemakers are winning the lottery

2736
01:50:28,470 --> 01:50:25,510
like this on a regular basis too much to

2737
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:28,480
just be left to the idea of chance I

2738
01:50:31,020 --> 01:50:29,650
believe so

2739
01:50:33,480 --> 01:50:31,030
you know this goes on and on and on I

2740
01:50:36,330 --> 01:50:33,490
can give you story after story I've we

2741
01:50:37,950 --> 01:50:36,340
do a show you know where we talk about

2742
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:37,960
these things in great detail and I bring

2743
01:50:41,070 --> 01:50:39,850
the teams on and I say you know so I'm

2744
01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:41,080
not putting you up to this you know

2745
01:50:44,910 --> 01:50:43,570
we're not sort of making you you know so

2746
01:50:46,860 --> 01:50:44,920
say something that hasn't happened here

2747
01:50:49,410 --> 01:50:46,870
now you tell it the story your way and

2748
01:50:51,030 --> 01:50:49,420
the circle making teams time after time

2749
01:50:53,340 --> 01:50:51,040
come out with all these stories about

2750
01:50:54,810 --> 01:50:53,350
strange coincidences where somebody was

2751
01:50:57,510 --> 01:50:54,820
telling them that they had had a

2752
01:50:59,310 --> 01:50:57,520
premonition that this design was going

2753
01:51:00,900 --> 01:50:59,320
to appear and then this circle making

2754
01:51:02,550 --> 01:51:00,910
teams have gone out done what people

2755
01:51:04,830 --> 01:51:02,560
were asking for and it's fascinating and

2756
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:04,840
I think that's really what over the

2757
01:51:09,390 --> 01:51:07,570
years as a culmination of experiences

2758
01:51:13,440 --> 01:51:09,400
I've had has brought me to think that

2759
01:51:16,170 --> 01:51:13,450
circle making is a good thing yes it has

2760
01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:16,180
the aspect of it being a criminal damage

2761
01:51:23,010 --> 01:51:19,530
thing where the farmer's field is being

2762
01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:23,020
misused in that way but i I've kind of

2763
01:51:28,170 --> 01:51:25,210
come to the belief that well it may be

2764
01:51:31,250 --> 01:51:28,180
misusing the farmer's field but for what

2765
01:51:35,010 --> 01:51:31,260
it actually represents in terms of

2766
01:51:37,650 --> 01:51:35,020
wonderment and a strangeness that people

2767
01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:37,660
can explore I think that that is worth

2768
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:39,730
more than the the wheat that's in that

2769
01:51:43,740 --> 01:51:41,650
field the only problem is that we

2770
01:51:45,390 --> 01:51:43,750
haven't actually just we why do we just

2771
01:51:47,130 --> 01:51:45,400
pay the farmer people say why don't we

2772
01:51:49,230 --> 01:51:47,140
pay the farmer and do it legitimately

2773
01:51:51,060 --> 01:51:49,240
but ultimately you know that costs a lot

2774
01:51:53,610 --> 01:51:51,070
of money you know it does cost a lot of

2775
01:51:55,980 --> 01:51:53,620
money and then you're beholden to the

2776
01:51:58,260 --> 01:51:55,990
farmer to tell you where you can work

2777
01:51:59,340 --> 01:51:58,270
when you can work and as I said to you

2778
01:52:01,890 --> 01:51:59,350
earlier on a lot of these things are

2779
01:52:04,320 --> 01:52:01,900
spontaneous you know people decide in

2780
01:52:06,540 --> 01:52:04,330
that evening we must go out and make a

2781
01:52:08,790 --> 01:52:06,550
circle now and then they get in their

2782
01:52:10,710 --> 01:52:08,800
car or they walk to where it feels right

2783
01:52:13,290 --> 01:52:10,720
and that's very important where it feels

2784
01:52:15,330 --> 01:52:13,300
right circle making teams

2785
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:15,340
year after year even different teams

2786
01:52:20,010 --> 01:52:17,650
will walk to a field and and many times

2787
01:52:22,740 --> 01:52:20,020
they've stuck a circle on top of where a

2788
01:52:24,480 --> 01:52:22,750
circle was the previous year and if

2789
01:52:26,720 --> 01:52:24,490
you're thinking randomly walking into a

2790
01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:26,730
field and stopping at the same spot or

2791
01:52:32,370 --> 01:52:28,690
stopping at a spot where there seems to

2792
01:52:34,590 --> 01:52:32,380
be an underground aquifer water effect

2793
01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:34,600
that you can see from the air but is not

2794
01:52:39,090 --> 01:52:36,850
visible from the ground and at night how

2795
01:52:41,610 --> 01:52:39,100
people seem to come to these same spots

2796
01:52:43,620 --> 01:52:41,620
time after time and put them in the same

2797
01:52:45,450 --> 01:52:43,630
locations it's very interesting it's

2798
01:52:46,530 --> 01:52:45,460
almost like a form of dowsing I think

2799
01:52:49,020 --> 01:52:46,540
you know where people are kind of grind

2800
01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:49,030
this coffee was on the show he mentioned

2801
01:52:53,880 --> 01:52:51,850
that he gave the example of a pentagram

2802
01:52:56,100 --> 01:52:53,890
that was placed inside a five-sided

2803
01:52:59,330 --> 01:52:56,110
field that was perfectly positioned

2804
01:53:02,790 --> 01:52:59,340
within the field and he said that that

2805
01:53:04,890 --> 01:53:02,800
the odds of that being done just

2806
01:53:06,930 --> 01:53:04,900
coincidentally were astronomical

2807
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:06,940
and and so you know what you're bringing

2808
01:53:10,980 --> 01:53:09,010
up here are some very interesting points

2809
01:53:14,210 --> 01:53:10,990
of you know synchronicities and and

2810
01:53:17,550 --> 01:53:14,220
hyper coincidences have you ever seen a

2811
01:53:19,980 --> 01:53:17,560
formation that you are convinced was not

2812
01:53:22,550 --> 01:53:19,990
made by somebody that was was truly high

2813
01:53:28,500 --> 01:53:22,560
strange in its origin

2814
01:53:30,570 --> 01:53:28,510
well yeah year by year going by more and

2815
01:53:35,790 --> 01:53:30,580
more of what I believed could possibly

2816
01:53:37,530 --> 01:53:35,800
be something strange and not human these

2817
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:37,540
things have been eroded even for me

2818
01:53:40,530 --> 01:53:39,010
because I used to believe that there

2819
01:53:43,980 --> 01:53:40,540
were some formations that we would never

2820
01:53:46,440 --> 01:53:43,990
find out the truth to and is you know by

2821
01:53:48,330 --> 01:53:46,450
me setting up the question in my mind I

2822
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:48,340
would like to know about that I've ended

2823
01:53:52,980 --> 01:53:50,890
up having answers which have come out of

2824
01:53:56,130 --> 01:53:52,990
the most strange places like like these

2825
01:53:57,360 --> 01:53:56,140
two pilots you know in middle of nowhere

2826
01:53:59,190 --> 01:53:57,370
and they just happen to be the circle

2827
01:54:00,960 --> 01:53:59,200
makers and I meet them you know the

2828
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:00,970
chances of that happening and the

2829
01:54:04,980 --> 01:54:02,890
chances of them doing these spirals on

2830
01:54:09,270 --> 01:54:04,990
the same that's one example I can give

2831
01:54:15,480 --> 01:54:09,280
you other examples you know Colin talked

2832
01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:15,490
about the Celtic Cross formation that he

2833
01:54:20,220 --> 01:54:17,170
I believe asked for I think it was a

2834
01:54:22,230 --> 01:54:20,230
Celtic Cross and he was kind of saying

2835
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:22,240
to himself well if there's something out

2836
01:54:25,740 --> 01:54:24,130
there then you know kind of like make

2837
01:54:27,030 --> 01:54:25,750
contact with me and bang

2838
01:54:29,190 --> 01:54:27,040
something happened out

2839
01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:29,200
his window you know well who were the

2840
01:54:34,170 --> 01:54:31,090
circle makers behind that that's what

2841
01:54:37,230 --> 01:54:34,180
I'd like to know is you know who did

2842
01:54:38,730 --> 01:54:37,240
that and you you've you often don't get

2843
01:54:41,220 --> 01:54:38,740
answers to this because you know maybe

2844
01:54:44,580 --> 01:54:41,230
the circle makers have moved on and you

2845
01:54:47,970 --> 01:54:44,590
don't get to hear but one of the circles

2846
01:54:51,500 --> 01:54:47,980
which is revered by many people as being

2847
01:54:53,850 --> 01:54:51,510
one of the most classic designs I

2848
01:54:55,470 --> 01:54:53,860
thought well we'd never find out you

2849
01:54:57,180 --> 01:54:55,480
know that these people had gone away if

2850
01:54:58,650 --> 01:54:57,190
they were people they'd gone and we

2851
01:55:00,390 --> 01:54:58,660
would never know so maybe it was

2852
01:55:03,510 --> 01:55:00,400
something unusual it's known as the

2853
01:55:06,210 --> 01:55:03,520
Barbary castle design which is like a

2854
01:55:07,950 --> 01:55:06,220
triangle with on the three corners of

2855
01:55:11,340 --> 01:55:07,960
the triangle there's a strange shape

2856
01:55:12,900 --> 01:55:11,350
that on each 3/4 of the three corners

2857
01:55:20,820 --> 01:55:12,910
I'm just trying to member the year now

2858
01:55:22,890 --> 01:55:20,830
Barbary Castle 1998 91 91 yeah you're

2859
01:55:25,530 --> 01:55:22,900
right it's 90 91 yeah sorry oh I

2860
01:55:28,350 --> 01:55:25,540
remember I got 98 from but Barbary

2861
01:55:30,810 --> 01:55:28,360
Castle is held by many people myself

2862
01:55:34,650 --> 01:55:30,820
included as being one of these designs

2863
01:55:36,540 --> 01:55:34,660
that it just really was exceptional for

2864
01:55:38,690 --> 01:55:36,550
its period you know nobody'd seen

2865
01:55:41,970 --> 01:55:38,700
anything like it it it changed the game

2866
01:55:43,830 --> 01:55:41,980
yeah put it into a whole new whole new

2867
01:55:46,410 --> 01:55:43,840
realm that was quite paradigm-shifting

2868
01:55:48,330 --> 01:55:46,420
yeah I mean you know crop circles worth

2869
01:55:50,280 --> 01:55:48,340
quite simple affairs as you're aware I

2870
01:55:52,350 --> 01:55:50,290
mean it's like changed overnight to

2871
01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:52,360
being incredibly complicated designs and

2872
01:55:57,030 --> 01:55:54,490
they set the new standard then for

2873
01:55:59,010 --> 01:55:57,040
circle makers to kind of reach and a new

2874
01:56:00,780 --> 01:55:59,020
level which a lot of teams it took them

2875
01:56:03,450 --> 01:56:00,790
time to sort of get to this level and

2876
01:56:04,830 --> 01:56:03,460
and move on and and as you well today I

2877
01:56:07,230 --> 01:56:04,840
mean just look at it today I mean you

2878
01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:07,240
were alien faces I mean it's just like

2879
01:56:12,090 --> 01:56:09,730
even things I would kind of like you

2880
01:56:16,950 --> 01:56:12,100
know screw my eyes up but kind of

2881
01:56:18,540 --> 01:56:16,960
thinking how you do them they well going

2882
01:56:22,380 --> 01:56:18,550
back to the Barbary castle formation

2883
01:56:25,410 --> 01:56:22,390
this chap was chatting on the top of a

2884
01:56:27,570 --> 01:56:25,420
hill near a monument and I was listening

2885
01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:27,580
to this guy chatting to some some other

2886
01:56:33,150 --> 01:56:30,250
fellow who was there and I driven up

2887
01:56:35,190 --> 01:56:33,160
this this hill on a motorbike I had a

2888
01:56:36,570 --> 01:56:35,200
scrambler bike and I was near this

2889
01:56:38,310 --> 01:56:36,580
monument and I was listening to this

2890
01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:38,320
conversation you know with

2891
01:56:42,570 --> 01:56:40,810
the wind blowing past us all of a sudden

2892
01:56:43,860 --> 01:56:42,580
they got onto crop circles and it was

2893
01:56:46,500 --> 01:56:43,870
like oh yes they shouldn't have crop

2894
01:56:48,450 --> 01:56:46,510
circles in this area and I could tell by

2895
01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:48,460
the way that one of them was talking I

2896
01:56:51,420 --> 01:56:50,530
was thinking you know more about this

2897
01:56:52,950 --> 01:56:51,430
than you're saying

2898
01:56:55,050 --> 01:56:52,960
I just had this sort of thought that I

2899
01:56:57,120 --> 01:56:55,060
had had you know this guy seems to kind

2900
01:56:59,610 --> 01:56:57,130
of know something and he's not saying

2901
01:57:01,890 --> 01:56:59,620
he's playing coy and he's playing it

2902
01:57:03,450 --> 01:57:01,900
down but he knows more because I've

2903
01:57:04,740 --> 01:57:03,460
heard that patter before the way that

2904
01:57:06,510 --> 01:57:04,750
sometimes circle makers don't want to

2905
01:57:07,950 --> 01:57:06,520
get into do want to get into it with

2906
01:57:09,780 --> 01:57:07,960
people because you know they're opening

2907
01:57:11,550 --> 01:57:09,790
a can of worms you know where people

2908
01:57:13,500 --> 01:57:11,560
might even start getting it attacking

2909
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:13,510
them you know if they kind of reveal

2910
01:57:17,130 --> 01:57:15,370
that they're a circle maker yeah hell

2911
01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:17,140
hath no fury like a crappie

2912
01:57:22,710 --> 01:57:21,130
whether it's oh yeah hackles up yeah or

2913
01:57:25,230 --> 01:57:22,720
or a Linda Moulton Howe with an another

2914
01:57:27,270 --> 01:57:25,240
say hitting me across the head yeah

2915
01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:27,280
we've gotta do this break we have

2916
01:57:31,830 --> 01:57:29,890
Matthew Williams joining gene and Chris

2917
01:57:40,110 --> 01:57:31,840
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different protein powders over the years

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and they've all tasted pretty bad I

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tried one world way and found it to be

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delicious after ten weeks on one world

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way my wife commented you have more

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muscles and you're leaner than when you

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were 20 years old my body has changed

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dramatically I'm a cyclist normally I'll

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ride two days on and take two days off

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after being on one world

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way I wrote 10 days in a row and over

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two servings of one world away and then

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work out at the gym for another hour and

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a half I just couldn't believe these

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results my normal muscle tightness and

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soreness after working out are virtually

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gone don't take my word for it one will

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from you if you have a comment or

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question about the para cast sent it to

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muse at the Parra cast com that's news

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at the Parra cast calm and don't forget

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forums at forum de perak ask.com i still

3010
02:02:06,020 --> 02:02:03,480
wonder whether chris would be a really

3011
02:02:08,419 --> 02:02:06,030
good crop circle maker if he gets busted

3012
02:02:09,800 --> 02:02:08,429
we have a headline story everybody would

3013
02:02:11,540 --> 02:02:09,810
want to listen to the show when you have

3014
02:02:14,540 --> 02:02:11,550
to criss raise bail and you know there's

3015
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always a negative williams joining us

3016
02:02:19,760 --> 02:02:17,100
we're getting into the more unusual or

3017
02:02:22,160 --> 02:02:19,770
paranormal aspects and during the next

3018
02:02:24,379 --> 02:02:22,170
three segments chris will also be asking

3019
02:02:25,850 --> 02:02:24,389
your questions listeners we have so many

3020
02:02:29,060 --> 02:02:25,860
there's no way we'll get to them all I

3021
02:02:30,770 --> 02:02:29,070
think we've answered some of them talked

3022
02:02:32,600 --> 02:02:30,780
about what one that I really want to get

3023
02:02:35,419 --> 02:02:32,610
to before we get too far down the pike

3024
02:02:37,700 --> 02:02:35,429
here has to do with the magic basket or

3025
02:02:39,800 --> 02:02:37,710
the the bishops cannons basket formation

3026
02:02:42,620 --> 02:02:39,810
that that you claimed you were actually

3027
02:02:45,110 --> 02:02:42,630
you made and were busted for now Simeon

3028
02:02:47,300 --> 02:02:45,120
Hine who was a remote viewer here in the

3029
02:02:51,140 --> 02:02:47,310
United States has actually a remote

3030
02:02:53,780 --> 02:02:51,150
viewing training operation evidently he

3031
02:02:57,200 --> 02:02:53,790
went out and did some electromagnetic

3032
02:03:00,860 --> 02:02:57,210
anomaly detection work in that formation

3033
02:03:02,390 --> 02:03:00,870
on the land after to bend mode or you

3034
02:03:05,660 --> 02:03:02,400
know the the crop had been gathered by

3035
02:03:07,340 --> 02:03:05,670
the by the farmer and Constance has a

3036
02:03:09,680 --> 02:03:07,350
very interesting question here and it's

3037
02:03:11,930 --> 02:03:09,690
pretty long but basically what she's

3038
02:03:13,729 --> 02:03:11,940
asking is what do you think of the

3039
02:03:15,200 --> 02:03:13,739
energy readings

3040
02:03:18,560 --> 02:03:15,210
that showed that there were more than

3041
02:03:20,450 --> 02:03:18,570
100 volts greater within the previous

3042
02:03:23,600 --> 02:03:20,460
formation than in the surrounding wheat

3043
02:03:26,629 --> 02:03:23,610
field and she goes on and on

3044
02:03:28,790 --> 02:03:26,639
stating that it definitely seemed to

3045
02:03:30,500 --> 02:03:28,800
have some sort of unusual energetic

3046
02:03:32,479 --> 02:03:30,510
properties yeah you're saying you just

3047
02:03:35,089 --> 02:03:32,489
went out there and and just whipped it

3048
02:03:38,479 --> 02:03:35,099
out on your own yes Chris

3049
02:03:40,399 --> 02:03:38,489
we went out pretty much it was a

3050
02:03:42,279 --> 02:03:40,409
spur-of-the-moment thing

3051
02:03:45,770 --> 02:03:42,289
somebody visited my house it was a

3052
02:03:47,600 --> 02:03:45,780
well-known circle maker in a know not

3053
02:03:50,509 --> 02:03:47,610
well known in the world sense but

3054
02:03:54,259 --> 02:03:50,519
amongst circle makers he turned up and

3055
02:03:55,640 --> 02:03:54,269
an on circle maker was there and I and I

3056
02:03:58,339 --> 02:03:55,650
said you know would you like to come and

3057
02:03:59,479 --> 02:03:58,349
make a circle and to the person who was

3058
02:04:02,450 --> 02:03:59,489
not a circle maker would you like to

3059
02:04:05,270 --> 02:04:02,460
come watch you know and so he went out

3060
02:04:08,600 --> 02:04:05,280
and this circle maker actually had a

3061
02:04:10,339 --> 02:04:08,610
design idea which was the shape that you

3062
02:04:12,890 --> 02:04:10,349
are familiar with it's like the circles

3063
02:04:15,319 --> 02:04:12,900
that grade down it's I think it spent as

3064
02:04:17,629 --> 02:04:15,329
a based on a pentagram it's a five five

3065
02:04:19,370 --> 02:04:17,639
points but there are three circles that

3066
02:04:21,859 --> 02:04:19,380
go down and then you know you've got the

3067
02:04:24,410 --> 02:04:21,869
basket weave now the basket weave the

3068
02:04:26,450 --> 02:04:24,420
weave itself was my idea but the design

3069
02:04:28,489 --> 02:04:26,460
was this other circle maker who probably

3070
02:04:31,600 --> 02:04:28,499
doesn't want to you know have his name

3071
02:04:34,069 --> 02:04:31,610
mention but anyway we went out

3072
02:04:35,660 --> 02:04:34,079
demonstrated that we could do this for

3073
02:04:37,819 --> 02:04:35,670
this person and we were just about to

3074
02:04:41,089 --> 02:04:37,829
flatten down the areas where the the

3075
02:04:43,759 --> 02:04:41,099
basket weave was I I said well let's not

3076
02:04:46,129 --> 02:04:43,769
just flatten it flat because you know we

3077
02:04:48,379 --> 02:04:46,139
always do that the idea had come to me

3078
02:04:50,509 --> 02:04:48,389
that we should to put a pattern in it

3079
02:04:52,669 --> 02:04:50,519
and I said look you know if we sort of

3080
02:04:54,589 --> 02:04:52,679
display it this way and go back and

3081
02:04:57,560 --> 02:04:54,599
forth and misfits you know it's gonna

3082
02:04:59,629 --> 02:04:57,570
kind of take on an unusual shape I tried

3083
02:05:01,430 --> 02:04:59,639
to kind of get him on board and he was

3084
02:05:03,259 --> 02:05:01,440
kind of not having any of it he said no

3085
02:05:05,060 --> 02:05:03,269
this this sounds like a bad idea I don't

3086
02:05:07,700 --> 02:05:05,070
get what you're trying to do I think

3087
02:05:09,350 --> 02:05:07,710
it's gonna look messy it'll just detract

3088
02:05:11,810 --> 02:05:09,360
away from the design and people won't

3089
02:05:13,279 --> 02:05:11,820
you know kind of get it then and and I'm

3090
02:05:16,430 --> 02:05:13,289
kind of like well no no come on let's do

3091
02:05:18,799 --> 02:05:16,440
it and begrudgingly he said oh go on

3092
02:05:21,470 --> 02:05:18,809
then and as we were doing this we were

3093
02:05:23,779 --> 02:05:21,480
actually laying down the basket section

3094
02:05:25,669 --> 02:05:23,789
he then convinced me that it looked

3095
02:05:27,290 --> 02:05:25,679
terrible he said no no no no you really

3096
02:05:30,380 --> 02:05:27,300
have messed this up now that's

3097
02:05:32,180 --> 02:05:30,390
we this is gone completely wrong and I

3098
02:05:34,130 --> 02:05:32,190
got convinced he kind of convince me

3099
02:05:35,660 --> 02:05:34,140
he's like okay I sort of you know head

3100
02:05:36,890 --> 02:05:35,670
down kinda like well sorry you know we

3101
02:05:38,480 --> 02:05:36,900
might as well carry on because gonna

3102
02:05:40,490 --> 02:05:38,490
look stupid if we don't kind of make it

3103
02:05:43,130 --> 02:05:40,500
look a union for this carry on as we

3104
02:05:45,440 --> 02:05:43,140
started with finish it so I left that

3105
02:05:47,150 --> 02:05:45,450
formation thinking ooh I'm not in

3106
02:05:49,760 --> 02:05:47,160
somebody's good books there you know he

3107
02:05:52,400 --> 02:05:49,770
didn't like what I did there oh so the

3108
02:05:54,800 --> 02:05:52,410
next day we heard from people rave

3109
02:05:56,180 --> 02:05:54,810
reviews coming and I was gonna drive up

3110
02:05:58,190 --> 02:05:56,190
there because Bishop scannings was where

3111
02:06:00,050 --> 02:05:58,200
I lived so this was literally only about

3112
02:06:03,470 --> 02:06:00,060
you know a five minute walk from my

3113
02:06:05,330 --> 02:06:03,480
house this circle you know he well the

3114
02:06:07,850 --> 02:06:05,340
farmer had cut it out by the time I got

3115
02:06:09,530 --> 02:06:07,860
there but they were rave reviews people

3116
02:06:11,330 --> 02:06:09,540
had photos and they said oh basket weave

3117
02:06:13,400 --> 02:06:11,340
brilliant you know it's amazing stuff

3118
02:06:15,320 --> 02:06:13,410
you know absolutely superb so in the end

3119
02:06:17,300 --> 02:06:15,330
I was kind of vindicated for my idea of

3120
02:06:20,390 --> 02:06:17,310
doing that basket and I have replicated

3121
02:06:22,280 --> 02:06:20,400
it a few times since I stopped making

3122
02:06:24,170 --> 02:06:22,290
circles when I got arrested so I must be

3123
02:06:26,030 --> 02:06:24,180
clear I kind of after the arrest I was a

3124
02:06:27,950 --> 02:06:26,040
good boy I didn't make any more crop

3125
02:06:30,380 --> 02:06:27,960
circles and it was partially to do with

3126
02:06:33,290 --> 02:06:30,390
and this usually gets a laugh because I

3127
02:06:37,160 --> 02:06:33,300
got hay fever quite badly when I made

3128
02:06:39,200 --> 02:06:37,170
the crop circles so I stopped I stopped

3129
02:06:41,630 --> 02:06:39,210
making crop circles partially because I

3130
02:06:44,480 --> 02:06:41,640
had been arrested and also because it

3131
02:06:46,790 --> 02:06:44,490
was a big relief not to be sort of

3132
02:06:48,350 --> 02:06:46,800
streaming eyes looking like somebody

3133
02:06:51,410 --> 02:06:48,360
punched me in the eyes with swelling

3134
02:06:53,630 --> 02:06:51,420
eyes and suffering quite bad hay fever

3135
02:06:56,000 --> 02:06:53,640
symptoms on occasions so much so that I

3136
02:06:57,350 --> 02:06:56,010
even have to stop making certain circles

3137
02:06:58,940 --> 02:06:57,360
I have to say look you know I'm gonna

3138
02:07:00,890 --> 02:06:58,950
leave you guys to finish this because I

3139
02:07:02,720 --> 02:07:00,900
can't I can't stay here this is just

3140
02:07:05,420 --> 02:07:02,730
getting too bad sneezing and wheezing

3141
02:07:08,150 --> 02:07:05,430
and all that so but the point being yes

3142
02:07:10,490 --> 02:07:08,160
I did do the basket electromagnetic

3143
02:07:12,380 --> 02:07:10,500
effects well there have been many

3144
02:07:15,320 --> 02:07:12,390
circles that have been created with

3145
02:07:19,630 --> 02:07:15,330
these effects in them and unfortunately

3146
02:07:23,480 --> 02:07:19,640
because the sampling system was wrong ie

3147
02:07:24,830 --> 02:07:23,490
people like wrong Ron Russell and Simeon

3148
02:07:27,380 --> 02:07:24,840
High in who were doing the tests

3149
02:07:30,200 --> 02:07:27,390
actually used to think that people

3150
02:07:32,270 --> 02:07:30,210
couldn't make these circles so of course

3151
02:07:34,190 --> 02:07:32,280
you know you you have the assumption

3152
02:07:37,130 --> 02:07:34,200
that people can't make the circles you

3153
02:07:39,560 --> 02:07:37,140
then find that your equipment is reading

3154
02:07:40,550 --> 02:07:39,570
high readings electromagnetic readings

3155
02:07:44,060 --> 02:07:40,560
so

3156
02:07:45,920 --> 02:07:44,070
you take those readings as being proof

3157
02:07:48,230 --> 02:07:45,930
that the circle couldn't be made by

3158
02:07:50,210 --> 02:07:48,240
people and of course if your assumption

3159
02:07:52,460 --> 02:07:50,220
in the first place is wrong then the

3160
02:07:55,310 --> 02:07:52,470
higher the readings you get the more it

3161
02:07:57,650 --> 02:07:55,320
definitely couldn't be made by people so

3162
02:07:59,900 --> 02:07:57,660
what I was keen to do and I actually got

3163
02:08:01,850 --> 02:07:59,910
in touch with Ron because like I said

3164
02:08:03,530 --> 02:08:01,860
with many researchers I approach these

3165
02:08:04,880 --> 02:08:03,540
people systematically and said look you

3166
02:08:05,540 --> 02:08:04,890
know this is what you're saying can I

3167
02:08:07,250 --> 02:08:05,550
help you

3168
02:08:09,500 --> 02:08:07,260
would you like to chat would you like to

3169
02:08:12,130 --> 02:08:09,510
see a circle being made and Ron was one

3170
02:08:15,800 --> 02:08:12,140
of these people and he arranged to come

3171
02:08:17,810 --> 02:08:15,810
to the UK we got him to come out and I

3172
02:08:20,810 --> 02:08:17,820
was very lucky because there was a guy

3173
02:08:23,660 --> 02:08:20,820
who needed a circle designed and and

3174
02:08:26,390 --> 02:08:23,670
offered to pay for a field he wanted his

3175
02:08:29,030 --> 02:08:26,400
company's logo to be to be put out there

3176
02:08:31,670 --> 02:08:29,040
in the field and so we got to do a

3177
02:08:33,650 --> 02:08:31,680
daytime formation Ron Russell and Simeon

3178
02:08:35,450 --> 02:08:33,660
Heim were the present they tested the

3179
02:08:38,090 --> 02:08:35,460
field with their equipment before we

3180
02:08:40,280 --> 02:08:38,100
started so there was no question that

3181
02:08:43,880 --> 02:08:40,290
they were knowing no strange readings on

3182
02:08:47,000 --> 02:08:43,890
their equipment and then with Linda

3183
02:08:49,370 --> 02:08:47,010
Moulton Howe the the researcher was

3184
02:08:52,250 --> 02:08:49,380
there as well she was present we made

3185
02:08:54,980 --> 02:08:52,260
this design in the daylight and once we

3186
02:08:57,260 --> 02:08:54,990
finished Ron Russell came in with his

3187
02:08:59,900 --> 02:08:57,270
equipment and Simeon Hine and they said

3188
02:09:02,660 --> 02:08:59,910
wow this has got the biggest readings of

3189
02:09:04,190 --> 02:09:02,670
any crop circle we've ever been in you

3190
02:09:06,530 --> 02:09:04,200
know this is this is the highest

3191
02:09:08,270 --> 02:09:06,540
readings we've ever had so you know I

3192
02:09:10,370 --> 02:09:08,280
wasn't expecting that that was not

3193
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something I plan to go out and do you

3194
02:09:15,890 --> 02:09:14,130
know let's let's do this I jest as a

3195
02:09:17,540 --> 02:09:15,900
demonstration circle it wasn't even to

3196
02:09:19,490 --> 02:09:17,550
kind of say well you know there will be

3197
02:09:21,260 --> 02:09:19,500
readings in our circle you know I

3198
02:09:22,940 --> 02:09:21,270
thought there might be you know there

3199
02:09:24,710 --> 02:09:22,950
might be because we knew that many of

3200
02:09:27,640 --> 02:09:24,720
our circles did have these high readings

3201
02:09:30,050 --> 02:09:27,650
but I wasn't expecting it when he said

3202
02:09:32,420 --> 02:09:30,060
have you done any sort of scientific

3203
02:09:36,950 --> 02:09:32,430
research into how that could possibly be

3204
02:09:38,660 --> 02:09:36,960
the case well the greatest indicator I

3205
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think really might be that we were doing

3206
02:09:44,060 --> 02:09:40,620
something in daylight not at nighttime

3207
02:09:47,090 --> 02:09:44,070
and what what was the big change I think

3208
02:09:48,380 --> 02:09:47,100
in why it had such high readings is that

3209
02:09:50,360 --> 02:09:48,390
when people are working at night the

3210
02:09:52,310 --> 02:09:50,370
conditions are different and if you work

3211
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in the day when the Sun is out and the

3212
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crop is dry because

3213
02:09:59,479 --> 02:09:55,980
you know nighttime brings condensation

3214
02:10:01,790 --> 02:09:59,489
and conversation you know may affect the

3215
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electromagnetic effects daytime there's

3216
02:10:07,100 --> 02:10:04,260
a lot of energy from the Sun the plants

3217
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are dry this most static charge because

3218
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they're dry and maybe you know static

3219
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you know so I would imagine that if

3220
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somebody did want to go into it in a

3221
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more rigorous way to kind of find out

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why if there's a difference between

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calm hi you're listening to the Paragon

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we're continuing our final two segments

3331
02:14:54,270 --> 02:14:51,550
of our visit with Matthew Williams and

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02:14:56,610 --> 02:14:54,280
you can see here where we're not going

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to even begin to cover the surface of

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listener questions are we Chris yeah

3335
02:15:03,210 --> 02:15:00,010
we're gonna have to have you back

3336
02:15:05,130 --> 02:15:03,220
Matthew this is fascinating stuff you

3337
02:15:07,260 --> 02:15:05,140
know I'm just sitting here scratching my

3338
02:15:10,110 --> 02:15:07,270
head looking at this from a scientific

3339
02:15:14,220 --> 02:15:10,120
perspective and if what you're saying is

3340
02:15:17,730 --> 02:15:14,230
real and true then I I'm just wondering

3341
02:15:19,940 --> 02:15:17,740
what possible test scientific test or

3342
02:15:23,880 --> 02:15:19,950
series of tests could be conducted to

3343
02:15:26,280 --> 02:15:23,890
let's say determine a high strange

3344
02:15:28,770 --> 02:15:26,290
formation that was not human-made

3345
02:15:32,250 --> 02:15:28,780
versus one that is human-made there's

3346
02:15:35,340 --> 02:15:32,260
there's certainly things you can look at

3347
02:15:38,400 --> 02:15:35,350
which I've done videos on YouTube which

3348
02:15:40,740 --> 02:15:38,410
explain what I call how to prove a crop

3349
02:15:42,360 --> 02:15:40,750
circle is man-made guaranteed you can

3350
02:15:43,920 --> 02:15:42,370
look that up if you want to sort of see

3351
02:15:46,620 --> 02:15:43,930
it on YouTube how to prove a crop circle

3352
02:15:49,740 --> 02:15:46,630
could be made can be made guaranteed

3353
02:15:52,080 --> 02:15:49,750
man-made guaranteed and what I say in

3354
02:15:54,090 --> 02:15:52,090
there is that you will spot certain

3355
02:15:57,450 --> 02:15:54,100
effects which you can see in photographs

3356
02:16:00,410 --> 02:15:57,460
quite clearly and these are what I call

3357
02:16:04,500 --> 02:16:00,420
combing marks if you imagine if you had

3358
02:16:06,120 --> 02:16:04,510
wet hair or sort of like wax in your

3359
02:16:07,710 --> 02:16:06,130
hair and you put your fingers through

3360
02:16:10,110 --> 02:16:07,720
your hair or you put a comb through your

3361
02:16:12,210 --> 02:16:10,120
hair you're gonna get marks from the

3362
02:16:13,170 --> 02:16:12,220
comb the teeth of the comb are going to

3363
02:16:14,040 --> 02:16:13,180
go through your hair so you gonna have

3364
02:16:16,500 --> 02:16:14,050
little band

3365
02:16:19,169 --> 02:16:16,510
things going through and you get the

3366
02:16:21,390 --> 02:16:19,179
same thing happen in crop circles when

3367
02:16:23,970 --> 02:16:21,400
they're flattened with mechanical tools

3368
02:16:26,669 --> 02:16:23,980
such as a stomper board which is the

3369
02:16:29,069 --> 02:16:26,679
wooden board with ropes on that we use

3370
02:16:32,250 --> 02:16:29,079
to sort of press the crop down now when

3371
02:16:35,040 --> 02:16:32,260
you do this in a systematic way with the

3372
02:16:36,750 --> 02:16:35,050
same distance size crop boards you're

3373
02:16:38,820 --> 02:16:36,760
gonna get these marks in between the

3374
02:16:40,770 --> 02:16:38,830
overlap points where you've flattened

3375
02:16:42,209 --> 02:16:40,780
one bit and then you have to go all the

3376
02:16:43,679 --> 02:16:42,219
way around and then you come to flatten

3377
02:16:45,929 --> 02:16:43,689
the next bit and the next bit in the

3378
02:16:48,870 --> 02:16:45,939
next bit well these look like comb marks

3379
02:16:50,549 --> 02:16:48,880
and you can see them visibly in a lot of

3380
02:16:52,620 --> 02:16:50,559
crop circle photos so you can go back

3381
02:16:54,059 --> 02:16:52,630
now on the internet pull up these photos

3382
02:16:56,009 --> 02:16:54,069
that you've you've looked at for many

3383
02:16:58,919 --> 02:16:56,019
years and thought wow great design and

3384
02:17:00,419 --> 02:16:58,929
suddenly I bet you I bet you any money

3385
02:17:02,099 --> 02:17:00,429
you're gonna spot these marks and you

3386
02:17:04,349 --> 02:17:02,109
won't have really realized what they are

3387
02:17:05,759 --> 02:17:04,359
and it kind of ended up looking like a

3388
02:17:07,049 --> 02:17:05,769
vinyl record you know you've got these

3389
02:17:08,040 --> 02:17:07,059
marks going round and round and round

3390
02:17:10,950 --> 02:17:08,050
right

3391
02:17:13,709 --> 02:17:10,960
yeah the tracks basically yeah that's

3392
02:17:15,990 --> 02:17:13,719
right well do you think that there are

3393
02:17:18,120 --> 02:17:16,000
actual formations that cannot be

3394
02:17:20,339 --> 02:17:18,130
explained I mean we never really asked

3395
02:17:25,349 --> 02:17:20,349
you that question are there really high

3396
02:17:28,589 --> 02:17:25,359
strange formations that have no human

3397
02:17:30,900 --> 02:17:28,599
perpetration behind them no no and

3398
02:17:33,629 --> 02:17:30,910
actually you brought you I don't think

3399
02:17:37,410 --> 02:17:33,639
there is I don't think there is but if

3400
02:17:41,009 --> 02:17:37,420
there were they would be the the designs

3401
02:17:43,379 --> 02:17:41,019
which are not geometrical ie the simple

3402
02:17:46,830 --> 02:17:43,389
circles because nobody ever really owns

3403
02:17:48,660 --> 02:17:46,840
up to those and in effect you know what

3404
02:17:50,160 --> 02:17:48,670
what you have with with circle makers

3405
02:17:52,080 --> 02:17:50,170
they're teams of artists doing

3406
02:17:53,400 --> 02:17:52,090
complicated designs they're more than

3407
02:17:55,200 --> 02:17:53,410
happy to tell you that they're doing

3408
02:17:56,940 --> 02:17:55,210
these things so it's kind of like you

3409
02:17:58,980 --> 02:17:56,950
have the culprit the culprit is owning

3410
02:18:00,690 --> 02:17:58,990
up to it but what the what all the teams

3411
02:18:02,280 --> 02:18:00,700
are kind of saying is yeah but we don't

3412
02:18:03,570 --> 02:18:02,290
make those simple ones you know those

3413
02:18:05,009 --> 02:18:03,580
simple ones have always been there

3414
02:18:07,889 --> 02:18:05,019
they've been there before anyone

3415
02:18:08,809 --> 02:18:07,899
probably made circles and so I say that

3416
02:18:10,799 --> 02:18:08,819
really

3417
02:18:11,879 --> 02:18:10,809
researchers have thrown the baby out

3418
02:18:15,330 --> 02:18:11,889
with the bathwater

3419
02:18:18,209 --> 02:18:15,340
when it comes to which crop circles of

3420
02:18:20,459 --> 02:18:18,219
which because now it seems they're only

3421
02:18:23,059 --> 02:18:20,469
interested in crop circles the more

3422
02:18:25,259 --> 02:18:23,069
complicated they are which of course is

3423
02:18:27,120 --> 02:18:25,269
pointing in the wrong direction what

3424
02:18:27,750 --> 02:18:27,130
they should be looking for is the crop

3425
02:18:30,000 --> 02:18:27,760
circles that

3426
02:18:32,129 --> 02:18:30,010
you simple in nature the more

3427
02:18:33,839 --> 02:18:32,139
complicated it is the more that is

3428
02:18:35,990 --> 02:18:33,849
evidence that it's probably been done by

3429
02:18:40,769 --> 02:18:36,000
an intelligence and that likely

3430
02:18:42,299 --> 02:18:40,779
intelligence is human so you know you've

3431
02:18:44,040 --> 02:18:42,309
you brought me back to the point

3432
02:18:45,599 --> 02:18:44,050
actually there was the Barbary castle

3433
02:18:48,450 --> 02:18:45,609
formation which I never finished the

3434
02:18:52,650 --> 02:18:48,460
story did I have the the guy on the hill

3435
02:18:54,929 --> 02:18:52,660
was talking about making a design with

3436
02:18:56,969 --> 02:18:54,939
somebody and I didn't believe what he

3437
02:18:59,309 --> 02:18:56,979
was saying whether or not

3438
02:19:02,669 --> 02:18:59,319
sorry whether or not he was telling me

3439
02:19:05,849 --> 02:19:02,679
the truth about being a circle maker

3440
02:19:08,940 --> 02:19:05,859
when I got chatting to him and he said

3441
02:19:10,679 --> 02:19:08,950
well okay then I'll tell you two circles

3442
02:19:12,570 --> 02:19:10,689
I've made I made the barbary Castle and

3443
02:19:13,320 --> 02:19:12,580
I made another one and then I never made

3444
02:19:15,150 --> 02:19:13,330
any others

3445
02:19:18,240 --> 02:19:15,160
so this guide made Barbary castle only

3446
02:19:20,610 --> 02:19:18,250
making ever making two circles and the

3447
02:19:23,309 --> 02:19:20,620
other circle I made was a script and

3448
02:19:27,000 --> 02:19:23,319
this script was something which wasn't

3449
02:19:29,459 --> 02:19:27,010
deciphered at the time the the code that

3450
02:19:32,549 --> 02:19:29,469
was in the script was like you get on a

3451
02:19:35,549 --> 02:19:32,559
calculator you have the numbers like the

3452
02:19:36,990 --> 02:19:35,559
the figure eight and you can make up all

3453
02:19:39,660 --> 02:19:37,000
the numbers one two three four five six

3454
02:19:42,299 --> 02:19:39,670
seven eight nine zero on a calculator by

3455
02:19:45,030 --> 02:19:42,309
just basically filling in or not filling

3456
02:19:47,129 --> 02:19:45,040
in the black spaces well this is what he

3457
02:19:48,660 --> 02:19:47,139
did with this design but he only did the

3458
02:19:51,059 --> 02:19:48,670
lower half so it was looking like

3459
02:19:55,860 --> 02:19:51,069
squares instead of looking like a number

3460
02:19:59,460 --> 02:19:55,870
eight now this design was many years it

3461
02:20:03,269 --> 02:19:59,470
had stood as and undeciphered text but

3462
02:20:05,790 --> 02:20:03,279
it was very easy to decipher what it it

3463
02:20:09,630 --> 02:20:05,800
actually said if you knew the trick to

3464
02:20:11,580 --> 02:20:09,640
it and when he told me this and drew it

3465
02:20:14,309 --> 02:20:11,590
out he drew it out straight up straight

3466
02:20:15,450 --> 02:20:14,319
away on the chalk the of this monument

3467
02:20:18,960 --> 02:20:15,460
that we were standing there he picked up

3468
02:20:19,920 --> 02:20:18,970
a piece of stone drew it out and I knew

3469
02:20:23,519 --> 02:20:19,930
that what he was saying was the truth

3470
02:20:25,260 --> 02:20:23,529
and basically it was actually a message

3471
02:20:27,030 --> 02:20:25,270
to one of the crop circle researchers

3472
02:20:29,460 --> 02:20:27,040
that he was trying to prove this

3473
02:20:31,620 --> 02:20:29,470
researcher didn't know what he was

3474
02:20:33,690 --> 02:20:31,630
talking about and it was Terrence Medan

3475
02:20:34,500 --> 02:20:33,700
and the message of the circle was if you

3476
02:20:37,440 --> 02:20:34,510
decipher it

3477
02:20:39,900 --> 02:20:37,450
he says Medan talks I'm not supposed to

3478
02:20:41,290 --> 02:20:39,910
use the bad language so he said let's

3479
02:20:44,580 --> 02:20:41,300
just put it like this meet and talk

3480
02:20:46,840 --> 02:20:44,590
crap okay and then you you kind of like

3481
02:20:48,670 --> 02:20:46,850
deciphered turn the word crap into

3482
02:20:53,170 --> 02:20:48,680
something else and then you have it yeah

3483
02:20:55,510 --> 02:20:53,180
so meatman talks a crap okay and then

3484
02:20:57,520 --> 02:20:55,520
you have it but that was the mystery of

3485
02:20:59,469 --> 02:20:57,530
that that crop circle which are many

3486
02:21:01,420 --> 02:20:59,479
years nobody knew what it meant and if

3487
02:21:03,670 --> 02:21:01,430
he knew that if he knew the answer to

3488
02:21:06,160 --> 02:21:03,680
that then if he tells me that he made

3489
02:21:08,200 --> 02:21:06,170
the barbary castle I believe him so that

3490
02:21:10,540 --> 02:21:08,210
that kind of puts that one just to rest

3491
02:21:13,690 --> 02:21:10,550
as well so no I don't think there are

3492
02:21:15,910 --> 02:21:13,700
any circles that I see that I couldn't

3493
02:21:18,700 --> 02:21:15,920
say would have been created by people

3494
02:21:21,490 --> 02:21:18,710
unless you're talking about damage in

3495
02:21:23,260 --> 02:21:21,500
fields wind damage or society which was

3496
02:21:25,780 --> 02:21:23,270
just what fascinates me the random

3497
02:21:28,750 --> 02:21:25,790
blowdown events I think are really

3498
02:21:32,410 --> 02:21:28,760
important yeah sure and I mean a lot has

3499
02:21:33,760 --> 02:21:32,420
been done by us to help demystify you

3500
02:21:35,500 --> 02:21:33,770
know what people have believed in the

3501
02:21:38,290 --> 02:21:35,510
past to be effects of genuine crop

3502
02:21:40,860 --> 02:21:38,300
circles as we started the show we were

3503
02:21:44,139 --> 02:21:40,870
talking about these nodal bends which

3504
02:21:45,880 --> 02:21:44,149
people have called the blown nodes these

3505
02:21:47,920 --> 02:21:45,890
knuckle points on the plants when you

3506
02:21:50,349 --> 02:21:47,930
bend them over you get these cracks and

3507
02:21:52,300 --> 02:21:50,359
the cracks are literally where the plant

3508
02:21:56,860 --> 02:21:52,310
tries to grow back towards the sunlight

3509
02:21:59,290 --> 02:21:56,870
and where the sunlight shines down the

3510
02:22:01,270 --> 02:21:59,300
plant will move itself back up and and

3511
02:22:03,730 --> 02:22:01,280
start to correct so instead of being a

3512
02:22:06,040 --> 02:22:03,740
flattened crop circle anymore you'll

3513
02:22:08,320 --> 02:22:06,050
start to have it sort of recovering back

3514
02:22:10,870 --> 02:22:08,330
up to a straight up position and in some

3515
02:22:13,450 --> 02:22:10,880
cases it nearly recovers fully you know

3516
02:22:15,849 --> 02:22:13,460
to the plant standing back up but when

3517
02:22:18,309 --> 02:22:15,859
it does this it has to actually start

3518
02:22:20,650 --> 02:22:18,319
changing its direction that it's

3519
02:22:22,929 --> 02:22:20,660
pointing at one of these nodal points or

3520
02:22:25,330 --> 02:22:22,939
one of these knuckle points so it starts

3521
02:22:27,309 --> 02:22:25,340
to bend like you bend your elbow okay so

3522
02:22:29,590 --> 02:22:27,319
if you imagine your arm bending the

3523
02:22:31,660 --> 02:22:29,600
elbow that's how a plant would move and

3524
02:22:34,750 --> 02:22:31,670
if you imagine on the end of your elbow

3525
02:22:36,520 --> 02:22:34,760
it splits the the plant splits open

3526
02:22:39,010 --> 02:22:36,530
because it's stretching so much at that

3527
02:22:40,929 --> 02:22:39,020
point because it's not normally going to

3528
02:22:43,690 --> 02:22:40,939
sort of you know use that knuckle to

3529
02:22:45,550 --> 02:22:43,700
bend in such a radical maneuver but it

3530
02:22:48,370 --> 02:22:45,560
has to because it's been flattened down

3531
02:22:50,770 --> 02:22:48,380
so it has to move quite a lot that

3532
02:22:52,870 --> 02:22:50,780
knuckle point then splits open and seeps

3533
02:22:54,310 --> 02:22:52,880
a fluid which has been described to me

3534
02:22:58,211 --> 02:22:54,320
it's like a yeast type

3535
02:23:00,820 --> 02:22:58,221
substance and that then dries on the

3536
02:23:03,970 --> 02:23:00,830
outer exterior of plant when it seeps

3537
02:23:06,730 --> 02:23:03,980
out and that turns black and when it

3538
02:23:09,280 --> 02:23:06,740
turns black it looks like it's heat

3539
02:23:13,030 --> 02:23:09,290
damaged it's not heat damaged at all so

3540
02:23:15,461 --> 02:23:13,040
when people like William Levengood came

3541
02:23:18,910 --> 02:23:15,471
along and started saying about microwave

3542
02:23:21,310 --> 02:23:18,920
damage in the the plants and cellular

3543
02:23:23,740 --> 02:23:21,320
changes it all sounded great you know

3544
02:23:26,381 --> 02:23:23,750
was it dudes what it was what people

3545
02:23:27,820 --> 02:23:26,391
wanted to hear it was it was exactly the

3546
02:23:31,001 --> 02:23:27,830
type of thing that people wanted to hear

3547
02:23:32,921 --> 02:23:31,011
and then you know we basically found out

3548
02:23:35,220 --> 02:23:32,931
that this is a natural effect it's well

3549
02:23:37,631 --> 02:23:35,230
known it's called phototropism and

3550
02:23:39,910 --> 02:23:37,641
William Levengood is supposedly this

3551
02:23:42,850 --> 02:23:39,920
scientist in a plant biologist and he

3552
02:23:45,551 --> 02:23:42,860
should have known this let's call this a

3553
02:23:46,930 --> 02:23:45,561
stop the presses moment ladies and

3554
02:23:49,330 --> 02:23:46,940
gentlemen were going to be featuring

3555
02:23:51,970 --> 02:23:49,340
next week on the power cast none other

3556
02:23:54,190 --> 02:23:51,980
than Richard Dolan of course Richard has

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02:23:55,301 --> 02:23:54,200
written those books UFOs in the national

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he was co-author along with Bryce Zabel

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of AD after disclosure he's got a book

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coming out called UFOs for the 21st

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century mind an ancient mystery for a

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new era this is going to be one

3564
02:24:15,580 --> 02:24:12,740
fascinating session Richard Dolan coming

3565
02:24:17,830 --> 02:24:15,590
next week on the power cast Matthew

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Williams joining gene and Chris for one

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this our final segment this time out

3674
02:29:03,469 --> 02:29:00,890
with Matthew Williams as we said before

3675
02:29:08,750 --> 02:29:03,479
he's going to be back there's no way to

3676
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possibly stop Matthew sure okay well

3677
02:29:13,880 --> 02:29:11,010
thanks very much I mean we've got like

3678
02:29:15,440 --> 02:29:13,890
72 hours worth of circlemakers TV you

3679
02:29:17,719 --> 02:29:15,450
know it's a this is just goes to show

3680
02:29:20,030 --> 02:29:17,729
you just how much you can you can talk

3681
02:29:22,010 --> 02:29:20,040
all day long about the details the real

3682
02:29:25,670 --> 02:29:22,020
hardcore details of what's going on here

3683
02:29:28,730 --> 02:29:25,680
but yeah these knuckle bends the the

3684
02:29:33,980 --> 02:29:28,740
blow nodes those were blown out of the

3685
02:29:37,520 --> 02:29:33,990
water by the you know sort of science of

3686
02:29:39,469 --> 02:29:37,530
Levengood being questioned well you know

3687
02:29:41,270 --> 02:29:39,479
this guy Levengood called himself a

3688
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doctor you know he said he was a plant

3689
02:29:46,820 --> 02:29:43,800
biologist but he didn't know a simple

3690
02:29:49,160 --> 02:29:46,830
effect like phototropism and then it

3691
02:29:50,870 --> 02:29:49,170
came out about that we found out that he

3692
02:29:52,250 --> 02:29:50,880
wasn't actually a doctor that he was

3693
02:29:54,800 --> 02:29:52,260
using the title doctor and he wasn't

3694
02:29:56,780 --> 02:29:54,810
really a doctor and that was in all

3695
02:29:59,150 --> 02:29:56,790
fairness that was ascribed to him by

3696
02:30:01,250 --> 02:29:59,160
nancy talbot he actually never to my

3697
02:30:03,679 --> 02:30:01,260
knowledge call himself a doctor well

3698
02:30:08,389 --> 02:30:03,689
this is the thing he has he has done

3699
02:30:10,250 --> 02:30:08,399
because we've we basically you know it

3700
02:30:12,170 --> 02:30:10,260
was described to him by Nancy Talbot but

3701
02:30:15,139 --> 02:30:12,180
he's used the title many times on TV

3702
02:30:17,690 --> 02:30:15,149
documentaries and when he was questioned

3703
02:30:20,060 --> 02:30:17,700
about whether or not he was a doctor he

3704
02:30:21,920 --> 02:30:20,070
then came forward and said yes I was

3705
02:30:23,690 --> 02:30:21,930
given my doctorate as an honorary

3706
02:30:27,349 --> 02:30:23,700
Doctorate from the National Academy of

3707
02:30:30,260 --> 02:30:27,359
Sciences now he told this to UFO

3708
02:30:32,060 --> 02:30:30,270
researcher Kevin Randle and Kevin Randle

3709
02:30:32,690 --> 02:30:32,070
said well that's great thank you for

3710
02:30:34,280 --> 02:30:32,700
telling me that

3711
02:30:35,660 --> 02:30:34,290
and then he went to check it out with

3712
02:30:38,090 --> 02:30:35,670
the National Academy of Sciences and

3713
02:30:41,060 --> 02:30:38,100
they said we don't give out honorary

3714
02:30:43,670 --> 02:30:41,070
doctorates so not only had he used the

3715
02:30:46,580 --> 02:30:43,680
title not only had he used the title but

3716
02:30:48,620 --> 02:30:46,590
he had compounded the lie by you know

3717
02:30:50,240 --> 02:30:48,630
saying where he got the title so you

3718
02:30:53,150 --> 02:30:50,250
know it was like a double No

3719
02:30:55,940 --> 02:30:53,160
so unfortunately you know I know it's it

3720
02:30:57,260 --> 02:30:55,950
these things crop up a lot in in crop

3721
02:30:59,920 --> 02:30:57,270
circle research there are a lot of

3722
02:31:03,320 --> 02:30:59,930
people using fake titles out there

3723
02:31:04,179 --> 02:31:03,330
there's a UFO community that do the same

3724
02:31:05,800 --> 02:31:04,189
thing

3725
02:31:08,139 --> 02:31:05,810
yeah but I mean you know it's so easy to

3726
02:31:09,760 --> 02:31:08,149
disprove I mean you think to yourself if

3727
02:31:11,410 --> 02:31:09,770
you just didn't say that if you just

3728
02:31:13,449 --> 02:31:11,420
said look I'm somebody who's interested

3729
02:31:16,149 --> 02:31:13,459
in plant biology you know I'm not

3730
02:31:17,800 --> 02:31:16,159
qualified I'm not he has a master's in

3731
02:31:20,109 --> 02:31:17,810
to my knowledge he does have a master's

3732
02:31:22,199 --> 02:31:20,119
degree but but let's move beyond the

3733
02:31:24,819 --> 02:31:22,209
minutiae here let's let's ask some

3734
02:31:28,389 --> 02:31:24,829
questions that pertain to the future

3735
02:31:29,920 --> 02:31:28,399
this year we saw a dramatic decrease in

3736
02:31:32,529 --> 02:31:29,930
the number of crop circles that were

3737
02:31:34,569 --> 02:31:32,539
reported from the predominant area in

3738
02:31:37,449 --> 02:31:34,579
southern England how do you feel that

3739
02:31:39,160 --> 02:31:37,459
this is gonna play out as the mystery

3740
02:31:41,679 --> 02:31:39,170
sort of subsides do you think we're

3741
02:31:44,019 --> 02:31:41,689
gonna see reduced levels of crop circles

3742
02:31:45,519 --> 02:31:44,029
or do you think that that the interest

3743
02:31:47,920 --> 02:31:45,529
is still there for people to go out and

3744
02:31:49,510 --> 02:31:47,930
spend the time to do this well yeah I

3745
02:31:52,809 --> 02:31:49,520
mean I should just point out very

3746
02:31:54,370 --> 02:31:52,819
briefly there's somebody's just put a

3747
02:31:57,309 --> 02:31:54,380
piece of paper into my nose that reminds

3748
02:31:59,769 --> 02:31:57,319
me that mr. Levengood did actually sign

3749
02:32:01,330 --> 02:31:59,779
a report dr. Levengood a crop circle

3750
02:32:04,449 --> 02:32:01,340
report that he sent out so he actually

3751
02:32:06,219 --> 02:32:04,459
signed that himself but anyway yeah

3752
02:32:08,260 --> 02:32:06,229
there's that there's a lot of that goes

3753
02:32:12,370 --> 02:32:08,270
on but the crop circles in the UK have

3754
02:32:14,109 --> 02:32:12,380
been diminishing because I suppose it's

3755
02:32:17,380 --> 02:32:14,119
been going on a long time it's been

3756
02:32:19,389 --> 02:32:17,390
getting very large this the designs are

3757
02:32:21,760 --> 02:32:19,399
getting so big and so complicated that

3758
02:32:25,630 --> 02:32:21,770
it's reached a pinnacle that's very hard

3759
02:32:27,609 --> 02:32:25,640
for a lot of teams to kind of surpass so

3760
02:32:30,219 --> 02:32:27,619
you know in order to grow to make an

3761
02:32:32,910 --> 02:32:30,229
enormous design with an incredible

3762
02:32:35,679 --> 02:32:32,920
complexity you need a big team and

3763
02:32:37,389 --> 02:32:35,689
everything needs to go right you you

3764
02:32:40,120 --> 02:32:37,399
can't bring that many people together

3765
02:32:43,330 --> 02:32:40,130
all the time you might be able to manage

3766
02:32:45,939 --> 02:32:43,340
it once a year once or twice a year but

3767
02:32:48,160 --> 02:32:45,949
not repeatedly a lot of these teams tend

3768
02:32:49,540 --> 02:32:48,170
to work in small numbers of people like

3769
02:32:51,910 --> 02:32:49,550
do twos and threes

3770
02:32:55,359 --> 02:32:51,920
you know fives being the largest type of

3771
02:32:55,870 --> 02:32:55,369
team that you'd get and you know to what

3772
02:32:58,179 --> 02:32:55,880
end

3773
02:32:59,830 --> 02:32:58,189
even though these teams are interested

3774
02:33:01,359 --> 02:32:59,840
in the paranormal stuff and they've all

3775
02:33:03,670 --> 02:33:01,369
had their sightings of strange things

3776
02:33:05,580 --> 02:33:03,680
whilst being out there balls of light

3777
02:33:07,989 --> 02:33:05,590
you know strange flashes in the sky

3778
02:33:08,859 --> 02:33:07,999
seeing black figures you know all these

3779
02:33:11,439 --> 02:33:08,869
sorts of things have happened to

3780
02:33:14,199 --> 02:33:11,449
circlemakers everyone's interested in

3781
02:33:16,090 --> 02:33:14,209
that but at the end of the day it does

3782
02:33:17,630 --> 02:33:16,100
come down to the bottom line you know

3783
02:33:19,399 --> 02:33:17,640
which is money

3784
02:33:21,679 --> 02:33:19,409
what are this what are the sort of

3785
02:33:23,870 --> 02:33:21,689
circumstances of what these people's

3786
02:33:25,700 --> 02:33:23,880
lives have they got the ability to do it

3787
02:33:28,610 --> 02:33:25,710
some of them have got married and

3788
02:33:29,899 --> 02:33:28,620
they've got kids it makes it makes it a

3789
02:33:31,490 --> 02:33:29,909
little bit harder for them to get away

3790
02:33:33,290 --> 02:33:31,500
to do what they used to do when they

3791
02:33:35,389 --> 02:33:33,300
were a bit younger and we've all moved

3792
02:33:37,610 --> 02:33:35,399
on I mean I've been involved in this in

3793
02:33:39,410 --> 02:33:37,620
20 you know for 20 years so if you

3794
02:33:41,059 --> 02:33:39,420
imagine you know people starting this at

3795
02:33:43,670 --> 02:33:41,069
20 years they're gonna be 40 years old

3796
02:33:45,559 --> 02:33:43,680
now so there are some circlemakers out

3797
02:33:48,280 --> 02:33:45,569
there who've been doing it 20 years that

3798
02:33:51,679 --> 02:33:48,290
I know such as Julian Richardson and

3799
02:33:53,360 --> 02:33:51,689
he's one of the the best circle makers

3800
02:33:55,880 --> 02:33:53,370
out there you know he does the really

3801
02:33:58,910 --> 02:33:55,890
high-quality designs very large stuff

3802
02:34:00,469 --> 02:33:58,920
very intricate brilliant and he's never

3803
02:34:02,479 --> 02:34:00,479
made any money out of it you know he's

3804
02:34:05,240 --> 02:34:02,489
never he's never got commissioned to

3805
02:34:07,700 --> 02:34:05,250
work you know he's never he's never got

3806
02:34:09,830 --> 02:34:07,710
any of the that the fringe benefits that

3807
02:34:12,260 --> 02:34:09,840
some of us have got like I mean I I've

3808
02:34:14,719 --> 02:34:12,270
been lucky in some respects that I mean

3809
02:34:16,340 --> 02:34:14,729
I've been asked to go and do things you

3810
02:34:18,200 --> 02:34:16,350
know in other countries because I'm

3811
02:34:19,670 --> 02:34:18,210
known as a circle maker he wasn't known

3812
02:34:22,370 --> 02:34:19,680
as a circle maker he was kind of on the

3813
02:34:23,960 --> 02:34:22,380
fringes and they get like a TV company

3814
02:34:26,120 --> 02:34:23,970
will say look we will he do a

3815
02:34:26,899 --> 02:34:26,130
demonstration for us I got asked to go

3816
02:34:29,420 --> 02:34:26,909
to New Zealand

3817
02:34:31,849 --> 02:34:29,430
to do this Julian's never got any of

3818
02:34:34,580 --> 02:34:31,859
that sort of stuff so he quit this year

3819
02:34:36,800 --> 02:34:34,590
he quit from making circles that means

3820
02:34:40,130 --> 02:34:36,810
that the quality of the circles out

3821
02:34:43,670 --> 02:34:40,140
there has gone down the people who were

3822
02:34:47,439 --> 02:34:43,680
left behind making circles not quite the

3823
02:34:50,780 --> 02:34:47,449
same standards and it has had an effect

3824
02:34:54,260 --> 02:34:50,790
Julian has now switched to doing sand

3825
02:34:57,530 --> 02:34:54,270
art and he's doing designs on beaches so

3826
02:34:59,300 --> 02:34:57,540
he's working in the daylight people can

3827
02:35:01,219 --> 02:34:59,310
see what he's doing and he can actually

3828
02:35:03,050 --> 02:35:01,229
publicize his work without any fear of

3829
02:35:04,519 --> 02:35:03,060
prosecution because that's something

3830
02:35:06,380 --> 02:35:04,529
that does actually trouble him is

3831
02:35:08,120 --> 02:35:06,390
actually getting caught not something

3832
02:35:11,030 --> 02:35:08,130
that really worries me so much I mean

3833
02:35:12,979 --> 02:35:11,040
I've been there done that but it does

3834
02:35:15,590 --> 02:35:12,989
for some circle makers they do want to

3835
02:35:17,439 --> 02:35:15,600
remain kind of like away from the police

3836
02:35:19,610 --> 02:35:17,449
and away from that type of stuff

3837
02:35:21,260 --> 02:35:19,620
probably a couple of moments left let me

3838
02:35:24,469 --> 02:35:21,270
throw you a short fast question here

3839
02:35:26,719 --> 02:35:24,479
there's this therefore does this become

3840
02:35:26,929 --> 02:35:26,729
a fan eventually people just give up on

3841
02:35:31,451 --> 02:35:26,939
it

3842
02:35:34,701 --> 02:35:31,461
well like there there is a terrible

3843
02:35:36,741 --> 02:35:34,711
possibility that because the numbers are

3844
02:35:39,021 --> 02:35:36,751
coming down and interest is coming down

3845
02:35:41,151 --> 02:35:39,031
and because the truth is coming out as

3846
02:35:43,161 --> 02:35:41,161
well you know it what we're talking

3847
02:35:45,350 --> 02:35:43,171
about here I find is actually very

3848
02:35:47,930 --> 02:35:45,360
unpopular it's not something that a lot

3849
02:35:49,071 --> 02:35:47,940
of people want to hear they don't want

3850
02:35:51,081 --> 02:35:49,081
to talk about it they don't want to

3851
02:35:53,180 --> 02:35:51,091
accept it and when when when this show

3852
02:35:54,441 --> 02:35:53,190
is over people will be quite happy most

3853
02:35:56,001 --> 02:35:54,451
of these crop circle research you'll be

3854
02:35:57,951 --> 02:35:56,011
quite happy to pretend like we've never

3855
02:36:01,491 --> 02:35:57,961
had this conversation the show does not

3856
02:36:04,220 --> 02:36:01,501
exist okay and and so they would prefer

3857
02:36:06,021 --> 02:36:04,230
that the truth isn't out there that the

3858
02:36:08,241 --> 02:36:06,031
truth is suppressed so they can make

3859
02:36:10,581 --> 02:36:08,251
their money from the calendars and and

3860
02:36:12,411 --> 02:36:10,591
the tours and also stuff the circle

3861
02:36:14,180 --> 02:36:12,421
makers don't make any money from doing

3862
02:36:15,591 --> 02:36:14,190
any of this they don't do tours they

3863
02:36:17,691 --> 02:36:15,601
don't do calendars they don't sell

3864
02:36:19,341 --> 02:36:17,701
anything so a lot of these circle makers

3865
02:36:21,651 --> 02:36:19,351
are kind of like well you know I don't

3866
02:36:23,991 --> 02:36:21,661
want to keep on making circles to

3867
02:36:28,011 --> 02:36:24,001
support an industry for these people

3868
02:36:30,501 --> 02:36:28,021
that really only ever you know slag us

3869
02:36:32,600 --> 02:36:30,511
off you know call us nasty names and say

3870
02:36:33,951 --> 02:36:32,610
that we're horrible people and that we

3871
02:36:35,841 --> 02:36:33,961
shouldn't be approached and this sort of

3872
02:36:38,271 --> 02:36:35,851
thing so it's kind of you know it's had

3873
02:36:40,850 --> 02:36:38,281
a a whiplash effect you know these

3874
02:36:42,711 --> 02:36:40,860
priests eating edge researchers ya the

3875
02:36:45,291 --> 02:36:42,721
researchers have kind of like destroyed

3876
02:36:47,271 --> 02:36:45,301
the Golden Goose because they won't come

3877
02:36:48,890 --> 02:36:47,281
together and talk about what's really

3878
02:36:50,901 --> 02:36:48,900
happening and they won't talk about the

3879
02:36:53,810 --> 02:36:50,911
paranormal stuff so I've tried to bridge

3880
02:36:55,701 --> 02:36:53,820
a gap by doing what I'm doing by doing

3881
02:36:57,771 --> 02:36:55,711
here and talking about the reality of

3882
02:36:58,881 --> 02:36:57,781
there being something strange hoping

3883
02:37:01,430 --> 02:36:58,891
that it'll bring the communities

3884
02:37:04,071 --> 02:37:01,440
together so that we can talk but at the

3885
02:37:07,071 --> 02:37:04,081
same time I do you know realistically

3886
02:37:09,051 --> 02:37:07,081
see that possibly the truth coming out

3887
02:37:10,941 --> 02:37:09,061
has actually made a lot of people turn

3888
02:37:13,220 --> 02:37:10,951
off to this subject which is a sad thing

3889
02:37:15,021 --> 02:37:13,230
but you know the truth is the truth and

3890
02:37:18,201 --> 02:37:15,031
we have to decide whether we're gonna

3891
02:37:20,060 --> 02:37:18,211
live in a in a David Copperfield world

3892
02:37:23,121 --> 02:37:20,070
or whether we're gonna live in a sort of

3893
02:37:24,591 --> 02:37:23,131
real world okay Matthew Williams tell

3894
02:37:26,301 --> 02:37:24,601
our listeners where they can find more

3895
02:37:29,091 --> 02:37:26,311
of what you do and about that YouTube

3896
02:37:31,911 --> 02:37:29,101
channel yes if you want to sort of

3897
02:37:34,430 --> 02:37:31,921
listen to many hours of crop circle chat

3898
02:37:36,201 --> 02:37:34,440
we've got circlemakers TV which is one

3899
02:37:38,600 --> 02:37:36,211
word circlemakers

3900
02:37:40,671 --> 02:37:38,610
TV on youtube just type that in and

3901
02:37:43,551 --> 02:37:40,681
you'll get to a straightaway I must give

3902
02:37:44,469 --> 02:37:43,561
a government a health warning your ears

3903
02:37:45,969 --> 02:37:44,479
will be

3904
02:37:48,330 --> 02:37:45,979
greatly offended at the amount of bad

3905
02:37:51,330 --> 02:37:48,340
language I use which I would be very

3906
02:37:54,910 --> 02:37:51,340
recently I haven't done that tonight but

3907
02:37:57,040 --> 02:37:54,920
you know it really does bottle me up I

3908
02:38:00,540 --> 02:37:57,050
must say because I'm much better one

3909
02:38:03,760 --> 02:38:00,550
like you you know beep beep beep yes

3910
02:38:05,650 --> 02:38:03,770
sound bottled up Chris O'Brien where do

3911
02:38:07,210 --> 02:38:05,660
we find more of your stuff well as

3912
02:38:09,880 --> 02:38:07,220
Matthew has been pointing out we live on

3913
02:38:11,440 --> 02:38:09,890
our strange planet not your strange

3914
02:38:14,230 --> 02:38:11,450
planet Matthew but it's our strange

3915
02:38:15,640 --> 02:38:14,240
planet and boy it's strange calm and

3916
02:38:18,520 --> 02:38:15,650
I'll tell you what about strange things

3917
02:38:21,400 --> 02:38:18,530
we have a place on Twitter where you can

3918
02:38:24,010 --> 02:38:21,410
find us called the para cast check us

3919
02:38:26,200 --> 02:38:24,020
out on Twitter with a power cast we have

3920
02:38:27,400 --> 02:38:26,210
a power cast fan club two of them on

3921
02:38:29,530 --> 02:38:27,410
Facebook

3922
02:38:30,810 --> 02:38:29,540
we don't have a YouTube channel yet but

3923
02:38:34,360 --> 02:38:30,820
I think we're gonna get there someday

3924
02:38:36,040 --> 02:38:34,370
okay Matthew Williams thank you so much

3925
02:38:38,320 --> 02:38:36,050
for joining us this week on the power

3926
02:38:39,940 --> 02:38:38,330
cast Thank You Jean thank you Chris

3927
02:38:43,510 --> 02:38:39,950
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3928
02:38:46,390 --> 02:38:43,520
nice to be had been it's been nice

3929
02:38:56,211 --> 02:38:46,400
having me yes you've not been here don't

3930
02:39:02,421 --> 02:38:59,511
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3931
02:39:05,411 --> 02:39:02,431
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3932
02:39:09,320 --> 02:39:05,421
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